Ezra Klein

So we should say that when Trump was musing that he would like to send homegrown criminals to El Salvador, he does say, well, we'll have to look into the laws on that. What are the laws on that? So...

So we should say that when Trump was musing that he would like to send homegrown criminals to El Salvador, he does say, well, we'll have to look into the laws on that. What are the laws on that? So...

But if you could just send people away on what even you admit is an administrative error.

But if you could just send people away on what even you admit is an administrative error.

Is that where you think we are? Yeah.

Is that where you think we are? Yeah.

Not the black vans, but 1970. I mean, Three Chile, I mean, isn't, what is between us and there? In your presentation here, I have found nothing to hold on to. And I'm not asking you for something to hold on to because I think it's really important. Look, the thing I say in the intro to this conversation is, it seems to me the emergency is here.

Not the black vans, but 1970. I mean, Three Chile, I mean, isn't, what is between us and there? In your presentation here, I have found nothing to hold on to. And I'm not asking you for something to hold on to because I think it's really important. Look, the thing I say in the intro to this conversation is, it seems to me the emergency is here.

The test is here.

The test is here.

The question of whether or not they can defy the courts and do this is here. I think it is very inconvenient to face up to that. So if you think it isn't true, that's great. I would prefer to think it isn't true as well. But if you think it is true, then what does that imply? What are you supposed to do if you're standing on the abyss of 1973-era Chile?

The question of whether or not they can defy the courts and do this is here. I think it is very inconvenient to face up to that. So if you think it isn't true, that's great. I would prefer to think it isn't true as well. But if you think it is true, then what does that imply? What are you supposed to do if you're standing on the abyss of 1973-era Chile?

The problem is impeachment in an era of nationalized, polarized political parties is a broken power.

The problem is impeachment in an era of nationalized, polarized political parties is a broken power.

Which is to say it's a broken power.

Which is to say it's a broken power.

I don't want to drive people completely to despair. So let me. I know.

I don't want to drive people completely to despair. So let me. I know.

I mean, you can imagine a world. Yeah. Where we sort of muddle along in these horrors for, you know, a year and change. Democrats have a significant midterm victory. And I keep saying, and it's half a joke, but it's not a joke, that what might save American democracy is Donald Trump has the dumbest possible views on the global economy.

I mean, you can imagine a world. Yeah. Where we sort of muddle along in these horrors for, you know, a year and change. Democrats have a significant midterm victory. And I keep saying, and it's half a joke, but it's not a joke, that what might save American democracy is Donald Trump has the dumbest possible views on the global economy.