Ezra Klein

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Paul Krugman, thank you very much. Thank you. This episode of The Ezra Klein Show is produced by Roland Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Mixing by Afim Shapiro and Amin Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Elias Iskwith, Kristen Lynn, and Jack McCordick. We've original music by Pat McCusker.

Paul Krugman, thank you very much. Thank you. This episode of The Ezra Klein Show is produced by Roland Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Mixing by Afim Shapiro and Amin Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Elias Iskwith, Kristen Lynn, and Jack McCordick. We've original music by Pat McCusker.

Audience strategy by Christina Samieluski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie Rose Strasser.

Audience strategy by Christina Samieluski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie Rose Strasser.

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I think this is where it's very helpful to be grounded in both specific examples and specific policies. Because, yes, conceptually, all that is true. And then you just look around and you realize that the policies work very differently and the interest group constellations are very different in different places.

I think this is where it's very helpful to be grounded in both specific examples and specific policies. Because, yes, conceptually, all that is true. And then you just look around and you realize that the policies work very differently and the interest group constellations are very different in different places.

I think this is where it's very helpful to be grounded in both specific examples and specific policies. Because, yes, conceptually, all that is true. And then you just look around and you realize that the policies work very differently and the interest group constellations are very different in different places.