Ezra Klein

So something like that.

Huh?

On that carrot?

On that carrot.

There was a very similar proposal on the ballot a few years ago.

It failed.

$22 billion is also higher than most estimates of how much money that would bring in.

So if you put this Prop 13 reform or the closing of what you call the Trump tax loophole on the ballot,

And you support it.

And as often happens with well-meaning ballot measures to increase taxes, it fails.

Then what happens to the rest of the plans when the money isn't there?

Mr. Porter, you and I both lived a couple blocks away from each other in Irvine, California.

Irvine's an unusual city, a master-planned community.

The Irvine Company assembled the land of the 19th century and held it and then shaped it in this way that would be almost impossible today.

And I say almost because somebody is trying to do something similar right now, which is a California Forever project.

This tech billionaire, excuse me, this tech billionaire backed effort to build a new master plan city of 400,000 in Solano County on land assembled somewhat like Irvine was.

There's been a lot of local opposition.

The way that land was acquired was sort of unusual and secretive.

I have two questions for you here.

As governor, what would you think of California Forever?