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Ezra Klein

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

If there is no Department of USAID and you've moved it back under state, then you can tell state what really to fund in terms of foreign aid, right? There's a theory here, I think, that was never about efficiency. It was about deletion. He's not trying to make things run a little bit better. He's not trying to lower the overhead cost of government. That the theory is that in the first term,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

The bureaucracy impeded Donald Trump. It didn't listen to him. Bureaucracy is supposed to be limbs of the president. The only way to make the federal government a neural link of Donald Trump himself is to destroy the federal government and then rebuild it as that thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

The bureaucracy impeded Donald Trump. It didn't listen to him. Bureaucracy is supposed to be limbs of the president. The only way to make the federal government a neural link of Donald Trump himself is to destroy the federal government and then rebuild it as that thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

The bureaucracy impeded Donald Trump. It didn't listen to him. Bureaucracy is supposed to be limbs of the president. The only way to make the federal government a neural link of Donald Trump himself is to destroy the federal government and then rebuild it as that thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

Oh, I disagree with you that that wasn't the steel man. I mean, I think you have to listen to them to do the steel man, right? I don't think the steel man is imaginary. If you read the OMB regulation that froze fundingβ€” It said explicitly that the government has to reflect the will of the people as expressed through their choice of president.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

Oh, I disagree with you that that wasn't the steel man. I mean, I think you have to listen to them to do the steel man, right? I don't think the steel man is imaginary. If you read the OMB regulation that froze fundingβ€” It said explicitly that the government has to reflect the will of the people as expressed through their choice of president.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

Oh, I disagree with you that that wasn't the steel man. I mean, I think you have to listen to them to do the steel man, right? I don't think the steel man is imaginary. If you read the OMB regulation that froze fundingβ€” It said explicitly that the government has to reflect the will of the people as expressed through their choice of president.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

If you read anything Russ Vought has ever said, they have the unitary executive theory. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. If you asked me to do the non-Steelman, which I would love to do too, it is not my view that the Steelman case of this is to make the federal government fully responsive to Donald Trump.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

If you read anything Russ Vought has ever said, they have the unitary executive theory. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. If you asked me to do the non-Steelman, which I would love to do too, it is not my view that the Steelman case of this is to make the federal government fully responsive to Donald Trump.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

If you read anything Russ Vought has ever said, they have the unitary executive theory. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. If you asked me to do the non-Steelman, which I would love to do too, it is not my view that the Steelman case of this is to make the federal government fully responsive to Donald Trump.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

But the Steelman case for what they are doing, as expressed by them, and I think like a Steelman reflects like, I mean, I have talked to these people, right? Like I'm telling you what they tell me on some level. The Steelman cases, they believe, like as Derek said a minute ago,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

But the Steelman case for what they are doing, as expressed by them, and I think like a Steelman reflects like, I mean, I have talked to these people, right? Like I'm telling you what they tell me on some level. The Steelman cases, they believe, like as Derek said a minute ago,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

But the Steelman case for what they are doing, as expressed by them, and I think like a Steelman reflects like, I mean, I have talked to these people, right? Like I'm telling you what they tell me on some level. The Steelman cases, they believe, like as Derek said a minute ago,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

This has become non-democratically responsive, and the way it becomes democratically responsive is deeply responsive to the president. The president represents a different politics than Joe Biden's politics. And so if you have a state filled with liberal civil servants who don't want to do what he says, that is a violation of small-D democratic principles of how the government should be run.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

This has become non-democratically responsive, and the way it becomes democratically responsive is deeply responsive to the president. The president represents a different politics than Joe Biden's politics. And so if you have a state filled with liberal civil servants who don't want to do what he says, that is a violation of small-D democratic principles of how the government should be run.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

This has become non-democratically responsive, and the way it becomes democratically responsive is deeply responsive to the president. The president represents a different politics than Joe Biden's politics. And so if you have a state filled with liberal civil servants who don't want to do what he says, that is a violation of small-D democratic principles of how the government should be run.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

I think if you don't like it, that's fine. But I do want to say, like, I actually think that is the steel man. He's not – they're not doing this for no reason. They have an intention here. And I think, you know, whether you like it or not sort of depends on whether or not you like –

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

I think if you don't like it, that's fine. But I do want to say, like, I actually think that is the steel man. He's not – they're not doing this for no reason. They have an intention here. And I think, you know, whether you like it or not sort of depends on whether or not you like –

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

I think if you don't like it, that's fine. But I do want to say, like, I actually think that is the steel man. He's not – they're not doing this for no reason. They have an intention here. And I think, you know, whether you like it or not sort of depends on whether or not you like –

Lex Fridman Podcast
#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE

Lex, AOC should definitely come on this show. Well, she has her own.