Ezra Klein
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I think it's why he likes what Elon Musk is doing for all the risk of it, is the sense of constant action. All of a sudden government, which normally you don't feel moving, you feel it moving, maybe badly. Maybe what you feel is the heat from it burning to the ground. but you feel movement. I agree with that. Right?
And populists have that, they have a politics of energy almost all of the time, right? This is something you see across countries. Right. And I think that Democrats need to begin to think about speed as a thing we are actually tracking and pursuing government. Love it. We have other things we need to pursue and track. Love it. Equity, right, justice, right?
And populists have that, they have a politics of energy almost all of the time, right? This is something you see across countries. Right. And I think that Democrats need to begin to think about speed as a thing we are actually tracking and pursuing government. Love it. We have other things we need to pursue and track. Love it. Equity, right, justice, right?
And populists have that, they have a politics of energy almost all of the time, right? This is something you see across countries. Right. And I think that Democrats need to begin to think about speed as a thing we are actually tracking and pursuing government. Love it. We have other things we need to pursue and track. Love it. Equity, right, justice, right?
There are a lot of things we need to think about and you need to make trade-offs between them. Yep. But speed is one we have just let slip. And it's not just like, because it's kind of sad that we let it slip. Jake Sullivan said about Biden, he said, elections are measured in four years and his presidency will be measured in decades. It won't, or his policy agenda will be judged in decades.
There are a lot of things we need to think about and you need to make trade-offs between them. Yep. But speed is one we have just let slip. And it's not just like, because it's kind of sad that we let it slip. Jake Sullivan said about Biden, he said, elections are measured in four years and his presidency will be measured in decades. It won't, or his policy agenda will be judged in decades.
There are a lot of things we need to think about and you need to make trade-offs between them. Yep. But speed is one we have just let slip. And it's not just like, because it's kind of sad that we let it slip. Jake Sullivan said about Biden, he said, elections are measured in four years and his presidency will be measured in decades. It won't, or his policy agenda will be judged in decades.
So much of it is going to get get undone, including a lot of the transatlantic alliance that he worked so hard to rebuild that it won't. One reason that this book is politically important to me, you know my background as a policy reporter, and the stuff I like is the details of the policy, but one reason it's politically important to me is that Democrats have, I think,
So much of it is going to get get undone, including a lot of the transatlantic alliance that he worked so hard to rebuild that it won't. One reason that this book is politically important to me, you know my background as a policy reporter, and the stuff I like is the details of the policy, but one reason it's politically important to me is that Democrats have, I think,
So much of it is going to get get undone, including a lot of the transatlantic alliance that he worked so hard to rebuild that it won't. One reason that this book is politically important to me, you know my background as a policy reporter, and the stuff I like is the details of the policy, but one reason it's politically important to me is that Democrats have, I think,
got in a little bit of learned helplessness around not every little bit of how government moves slowly. People think about procurement reforms. You've done a lot on that. But in general, the sense that we just can't do what we once did. The way the government used to work, I was reading a great piece by Harold Meyerson, who's at the American Prospect, and he's a great California reporter too.
got in a little bit of learned helplessness around not every little bit of how government moves slowly. People think about procurement reforms. You've done a lot on that. But in general, the sense that we just can't do what we once did. The way the government used to work, I was reading a great piece by Harold Meyerson, who's at the American Prospect, and he's a great California reporter too.
got in a little bit of learned helplessness around not every little bit of how government moves slowly. People think about procurement reforms. You've done a lot on that. But in general, the sense that we just can't do what we once did. The way the government used to work, I was reading a great piece by Harold Meyerson, who's at the American Prospect, and he's a great California reporter too.
And he wrote this piece. It was back during the stimulus debate under Obama. He sent it to me the other day. And he talks about the way the Works Progress Administration started up under FDR and the unfathomable speed at which they just cut through everything to put millions of people, the equivalent today of putting 10 million people to work in a matter of months, right?
And he wrote this piece. It was back during the stimulus debate under Obama. He sent it to me the other day. And he talks about the way the Works Progress Administration started up under FDR and the unfathomable speed at which they just cut through everything to put millions of people, the equivalent today of putting 10 million people to work in a matter of months, right?
And he wrote this piece. It was back during the stimulus debate under Obama. He sent it to me the other day. And he talks about the way the Works Progress Administration started up under FDR and the unfathomable speed at which they just cut through everything to put millions of people, the equivalent today of putting 10 million people to work in a matter of months, right?
If these emergency structures work better, then why is it not making the normal structure closer to them?
If these emergency structures work better, then why is it not making the normal structure closer to them?
If these emergency structures work better, then why is it not making the normal structure closer to them?
You want to get the credit. That's one of the reasons I think the speed thing is actually so important. You want to shorten. Look, the policy feedback loops are broken because people don't know who did the policy. When you said a second, a couple of minutes ago, that these projects that can only exist because of your fast tracking, will not exist while you are in office, right?