Ezra Klein

And she was on Ross's show, which is an episode worth watching, debating that.

Well, there's just this reality that the essay, I think, avoids confronting in any way.

So her basic argument, among other things, is cancellation is an explicitly female way of meeting out punishment.

Cancellation is a feminine punishment, whereas getting punched in the face is a male punishment.

And so this age of cancellations just reflected the tipping point of women taking over workforces.

Amongst other completely obvious questions about this, is cancellation an exclusively female way of doing things?

Or when the Trump administration went around getting people fired for saying a bad thing about Charlie Kirk after his murder?

Or when they went around firing anybody who would use the term diversity in a grant application?

was that cancellation being done by a very male-dominated structure.

It's constant to watch what she is describing as a outcome of female domination and to say, no, this is quite obviously what social media makes possible.

And that the period in which he's talking is a period of algorithmic social media taking over as the primary communications platforms.

And in this period, you also have slack coming into workplaces.

And it creates this capacity for individual instances to be raised up, to ricochet everywhere.

But you can just look around.

You look on the right.

You look, as you're noting, I mean, did the communists not cancel people?

Did they handle everything by having an upfront, direct discussion about their differences in which the men hashed it out and got to a truth?

Right.

Here's the other thing that I found very strange in a bunch of these different books, and what you just said gets it in.

They don't really try to argue normatively that the changes have been bad.