Fady Joudah

It stayed with me and here we were, you know, my son waking up to go to school in the morning and, you know, me turning on the TV and...

a baby frog comes to send me a message.

And I also think that, you know, sometimes you have these conversations beyond the titles because, you know, if you want to say, if you understand...

if you understand the plight of refugees in the world in which we create refugees, then you need to understand also some of the inevitable or potential inevitable consequences like moving from displacement to ethnic cleansing or to genocide.

And so, you know, you can ooh-ah a poem all you like, but, you know,

But have you said a word about Palestinians throughout your spider journey?

This way I've ruined both poems, I think.

The Holy Embraces the Holy is a phrase from the late Jordanian poet Amjad Nasser.

In a beautiful poem I translated called Petra, The Concealed Rose.

And it's one, in my opinion, one of the greatest poems.

poems of place, of human place, because, you know, of the miracle that Petra is.

And so, yeah.

So you said it was... Yeah.

In the sacred city, which is, yeah, Machu Picchu.

In the sacred city, I wanted to visit the moon temple in Huayana, Picchu.

Time said I had to take the hill running and hopping at a comfortable non-stop pace so that I might make the last bus down to Aguas Calientes.

On my way up, I passed the depleted man sitting on a rock.

His half-life was visible in a plastic water bottle.

On my descent, he was near the top, a decaying wolf who couldn't blow a house down.

I stopped to water time.