Faiz Shakir

We saw this with Obama.

He had the opportunity in 2007, 2008, and he had it for a period of time.

Somebody coming along right now could realign America in a major, major way.

The big TBD there, though, is that unlike...

let's call it 2022, and you could say, you know, led to the kind of the wrong false hope that you're referring to.

There was an assumed front runner, right, of the Democratic nomination.

There wasn't going to be as much of a debate.

There should have been, which we argue, but there wasn't.

Sure.

This time there will be, right?

There will be actively, has to be, a very competitive primary, very open debate.

The question and concern that I have, of course, is that

Given that Senator Sanders is extremely, extremely unlikely to run, I do think that were he able to run, he would win in this cycle.

But I think, you know, if we could wind the clock 15 years younger where he could run, he would do very well.

So is there a natural follow on is the obvious question who most is closest to the conceptions of what are the best political attributes of Bernie?

And at this point, as you and I talk, it is not.

yet clear that there is that.

There's a lot of in the normy kind of moderate centrist lane, lots of governors we could rattle off.

But who's going to be out there aggressively saying, like Bernie Sanders, I believe X, Y, and Z?

By his orientation is very much a class based thing.