Fareed Zakaria

And this is what he's doing in each of these tariff negotiations.

His point is, I'm going to screw you.

I'm going to squeeze you.

I'm going to get that.

And there's something sort of strange about not realizing that American power since 1945 has been built on this unique thing that we have built so much goodwill and trust among the richest countries in the world.

International relations here is all predicted.

that at some point Germany will go nuclear, Japan will go nuclear.

They're too rich, they're too powerful to allow their foreign and defense policy to be subcontracted to the United States.

But it never happened.

And it never happened because we were honorable about saying we're taking everyone's interests into account.

And as you say, we made mistakes and all that, but

compared to other great powers that dominated the world.

You know, the United States has been remarkable in having this enlightened self-interest.

And it took 80 years to build that level of trust.

And my great fear is that, as you say, for kind of like...

almost misguided notions of economic wealth.

We're squandering it because what are we going to get?

First of all, the Venezuelan oil is a bit of a mirage.

Most people don't realize they talk about Venezuela having the largest oil reserves in the world, 300 million.

You know where that number comes from?