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Fareed Zakaria

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1398 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Right now, we are definitely speaking in the past tense.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The United States is currently not exercising its world role with the same level of strategic thought, with the same moral vision, and with the same humanitarian impulse that it has done, albeit imperfectly.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I hope that that can come back.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But my great worry, as I said, is some of these things

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

are very hard to reconstitute.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The world moves on, the world changes.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

People, your reputations take a lifetime to build and it's very easy to destroy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It's true for human beings and it's true for nations, maybe.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What are three books you'd recommend to the audience?

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

So one book I thought, since we do often talk about the rules-based international order, and it does sound so wonky, that I would suggest a wonky book that explains it.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The best scholar who's written on this is a guy named John Eikenberry at Princeton, and I think the book is called A World Safe for Democracy, and encapsulates what is this thing, the rules-based international order, the liberal international order that the U.S.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

created.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The second is...

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

a book by Reinhold Niebuhr called The Irony of American History.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And it's really all about the great danger when you are powerful of believing you are virtuous and believing that, you know, might is right and the call for humility.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It ends with a call for a kind of Christian realism.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

in American foreign policy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And the Christian there really refers to the humility at the heart of Christianity, which sometimes we forget when listening to Pete Hetzeth.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And the final one, a similar vein, is Graham Greene's book, The Quiet American.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I think that one of the, sometimes novels do it better than anything else.