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Fareed Zakaria

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It now seems poised to not simply be able to hold the Gulf states and much of the world hostage because of that pivotal position it has, but it's now going to monetize that, presumably giving it $90 billion of revenue every year, which is, by the way, about twice as much as it makes selling oil.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has weakened the Gulf states, which now sit in the shadow of this tension that they have to worry about and navigate.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has brought China into the Gulf, we learned, because the Chinese had to get the Iranians to agree to this.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has weakened the dollar because these payments that are being made through the Strait of Hormuz are now being made in crypto or in yuan, China's currency.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has strengthened Russia because Russia is now making something on the order of four to five billion dollars extra per month because of the price of oil, which will probably stay elevated for a while.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And it's almost wrecked the Western alliance because

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Trump, in his frustration and desperation when he realized he wasn't getting his way, has decided to blame all of it on all America's allies as if they had somehow joined in.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

This would have made any difference.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

When you have a bad strategy with unclear and shifting goals, it doesn't really matter how many people you have cheering for you on the side.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But you take all of that and you say those are the costs.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And the benefit is, as far as I can tell, is...

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

quite close to zero in the sense that Iran already had a nuclear program that was largely defunct.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Israel was already far more powerful than Iran and could easily defend itself.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I see it as an absolute exercise in willful, reckless destruction.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

A destruction of lives, destruction of massive amounts of American military hardware, destruction of America's reputation.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But I also think what the president of the United States says matters.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And you can't just excuse something on the argument, oh, it's a clever negotiating strategy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

First of all, it was a stupid, lousy negotiating strategy that has ended up with the United States much weaker than it was.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But even if it were, I don't think that the ends justify the means in situations like this.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And certainly not when the things you say