Fareed Zakaria

It's the Andrew Jackson line.

You remember when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Sioux Indians who were being displaced?

Or Cherokee.

Yeah, and Andrew Jackson is supposed to have said, you know, Justice Marshall has made his ruling, now let him enforce it.

So, I mean, most people don't realize what a sharp break it took place in international relations after 1945.

If you look at the hundred years before 1945, you see, you know, every two years there's a war of conquest, there's aggression, there's annexations.

You know, I mean, France and Germany went to war three times between 1850 and 1945, right?

Twice they dragged the whole world into it.

the the shift then from 1945 to this rules-based international system you know the united states basically it was franklin roosevelt's dream harry truman implements it um and what you have since then is remarkable it's there's

almost no war of conquest that has taken place.

There's almost no annexations.

There's almost none of that that has taken place.

Of course, there have been violence and conflicts, but it's a remarkable break.

And why did it happen?

It's because the United States conceived of a system that was not this traditional real polity law of the jungle.

It was

You know, let's try to create a world in which everyone has an incentive for peace.

Let's create an open economy so everyone can grow and prosper.

And they have this much more dark, you know, Machtpolitik.

It's like the 19th century German view of how to be powerful.