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Well, Scott, people are distraught. You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff, both here and overseas. And they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press. And some were afraid of being targeted by the administration. They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
Well, Scott, people are distraught. You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff, both here and overseas. And they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press. And some were afraid of being targeted by the administration. They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
Well, Scott, people are distraught. You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff, both here and overseas. And they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press. And some were afraid of being targeted by the administration. They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled. And they say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking. And many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails. The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the U.S. in 30 days. And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government.
They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled. And they say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking. And many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails. The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the U.S. in 30 days. And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government.
They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled. And they say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking. And many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails. The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the U.S. in 30 days. And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government.
You know, many are in conflict zones. They're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the U.S. or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.
You know, many are in conflict zones. They're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the U.S. or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.
You know, many are in conflict zones. They're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the U.S. or jobs or insurance. And some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.
So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2,200 people on administrative leave. Now, those are union foreign service officers who filed the suit. The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave. And he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend.
So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2,200 people on administrative leave. Now, those are union foreign service officers who filed the suit. The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave. And he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend.
So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2,200 people on administrative leave. Now, those are union foreign service officers who filed the suit. The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave. And he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend.
Now, this was all pushed back until next Friday. And in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency.
Now, this was all pushed back until next Friday. And in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency.
Now, this was all pushed back until next Friday. And in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency.
Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of corruption and fraud. No evidence has been provided to the public on that. And he and his advisor, Elon Musk, say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget. Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas. Americans are less aware of what it does. And analysts say what's happening here is...
Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of corruption and fraud. No evidence has been provided to the public on that. And he and his advisor, Elon Musk, say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget. Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas. Americans are less aware of what it does. And analysts say what's happening here is...
Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of corruption and fraud. No evidence has been provided to the public on that. And he and his advisor, Elon Musk, say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget. Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas. Americans are less aware of what it does. And analysts say what's happening here is...
is a playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies. But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its projects, and some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this. Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W. Bush, and he said Americans don't realize how influential USAID was.
is a playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies. But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its projects, and some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this. Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W. Bush, and he said Americans don't realize how influential USAID was.