Fearne Cotton

So Louise started her career on Made in Chelsea.

She was one of the OGs.

Way back in series one, but she has done so much since then.

She's gone on to become an author and a podcaster and a really powerful voice around incredibly important issues, including ulcerative colitis and birth trauma.

We talk about so many things.

We go off on some really interesting tangents and ones that I hadn't necessarily planned for.

You know, I do a fair bit of research for these conversations, but you never really know in which direction they'll turn.

So we do start talking about the realities of maternity care in the UK.

In my research for this chat and through looking at the brilliant work Louise is doing, I sort of had really no idea how bleak it is in the UK maternity care.

And that's no fault of the brilliant midwives and obstetricians and doctors and nurses who work in that environment.

It's a systemic issue.

And you'll hear more about that in this chat.

We talk about her fertility journey.

If you follow Louise on Instagram or TikTok, you'll see that she's been talking very openly about this recently, which I think is a brave share.

And the fact that, well, I don't want to say too much, but if you know enough about her fertility journey, you'll get up to speed with where she's at.

in this moment during this chat and also how her own trauma and god she's been through the ringer has led to immense growth and that i think is just such a brilliant part of the trauma conversation that is less often had right let's do it here's the show

So Louise, we've already, before beginning this podcast, decided we're going to move to a desert island and open an animal sanctuary.

Was that what we landed on?

Beautiful.

I would love that for our span.