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Felix Morsbach

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Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And you kind of...

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

already recognize them, right?

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So I guess everybody had this situation at one point.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So this turns out that we can also, there's other features besides our faces, which make us very much identifying.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And one promising one is the way we walk, what we would call gate recognition.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And this you can do perfectly fine with thermal cameras.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And so there's no trouble.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

I have no trouble identifying you on a thermal imaging if I have a gate recognition system.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

Yeah, LiDAR is even worse.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

LiDAR is even worse, like in terms of privacy, let's say.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

Yeah, exactly.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So seeing all these claims made from industry and also academia alike saying, yeah, I have this new cool system and this is privacy preserving and I can do all this nice shit, but without actually having the privacy, infringing any kind of privacy.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And we know that for certain examples, this is definitely not true.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So we said, okay, let's maybe test whether this holds for all the things.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So we built a small setup, did a study where we invited a bunch of people and recorded them with a very vast array of sensors.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

So there were thermal cameras, radar, depth cameras, LiDAR, and all the things that you can think of.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And also one of them would be Wi-Fi.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And as you rightfully said, so like Wi-Fi, what does this really mean, like Wi-Fi sensing?

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

And it turns out I can identify you based on how your body interacts with the Wi-Fi signal.

Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea
Extra: How Wi-Fi can be used for surveillance

What?