Finneas O'Connell

And it was kind of a good match.

The kind of backstory is, you know, I was in this band.

I loved music from the time I was, you know, born and then wanted to be a musician professionally from the time I was about 12 and played in bands all through high school.

And sort of as I started to learn more about how to produce, I got more interested in pop music and alternative music and

I had this friend who knew that I was in a band and he was like, hey, you produce, right?

His name was Frank.

He was like, you produce, right?

I was like, not very well.

I was able to see that I was pretty lackluster.

He was like, great, I'm sure you're going to be great.

I need you to produce some songs I'm going to do.

He was also very green, but he just gassed me up.

He just believed that I was more talented than I was and I'd play something and he'd be like, that's incredible, bro.

And that really gave me all this confidence that I would never have otherwise had.

And you know, Billy too.

I was making music with Billy in my bedroom

and being, you know, trying my best, and she was kind about it.

She was like, oh, I like that.

She liked Ocean Eyes.

You know, I think that I got so much positive reinforcement when I really needed it.