Fiona Fung

Like back then I was thinking, oh, how can I be like the – like what's a hard area of the stack?

And I really thought the lower level you go closer to the OS, then it's like more hardcore and you –

You'll learn more.

So that was I was really fortunate to gotten into the IBM internship.

But the funny thing was, I would I think there's even a big shift from IBM to Microsoft.

So at IBM, it was I think Vim, like I didn't have an IDE that we use.

I think there might have been an Eclipse license, but for some reasons, most of us didn't use it.

So I remembered it was mainly like Vim and, you know, like kind of terminal license.

debugging.

And then when I joined Microsoft, I mean, this is how naive I was.

I didn't even know about IDs and such.

And back then you didn't really get to pick teams.

Like this was early 2000s.

Actually, first off, I should say, I was so grateful that I landed the internship and the role because to take us all the way back in time, the dot-com bubble burst in 2000.

And so for my graduating class, like a lot of the companies didn't

weren't hiring or were having freezes.

So I was so fortunate when Microsoft sent me an offer.

And so they're like, you're going to work on Visual Studio.

I did not even know what Visual Studio was because I came from like a Unix school.

So I remember asking, oh, because I was thinking about the name Visual Studio.