Fiona Fung

And then I got like kind of more comfortable with again.

And, and so, um, I've actually had a lot of friends reach out to me that have been managing for a while.

That's like, Hey, I'm shipping code again.

Thanks to Claude.

And so, um, but in, in general, it's, it's, yeah, like it's, it's just important to me as leaders to make sure you're kind of like using the product that your team built.

It's interesting because we actually have this discussion on the team a bit.

Are there things that we miss?

Actually, to your point, I'm always thinking about when someone's onboarding and ramping.

You have Boris who hand-rolled the code in the early days and of course now doesn't anymore, but he gained that knowledge from before because he was in the code days.

So for especially all the engineers that join, I'm also like, make sure you're like taking the time to to all the work that you do still get the understanding of the architecture or the change because it goes back to that trust but verify.

Maybe one day it won't matter anymore.

But at the pace that we're going, I actually still think understand like it's always double clicking on that layer that you depend on.

Maybe that to me is a matter.

It's always take that time to learn about your dependencies because this way when your dependencies change, you're kind of more aware or you might not be taking advantage of changes to dependencies.

So I think it's always about doing that double click.

But the other thing that we found interesting on the Cloud Code team is after a while, we felt it could start being a lonely experience because we all started just working with our agents so much.

So recently we started maybe like a pairwise programming lunch because what we also learned was on Cloud Code, everybody uses Cloud Code to work.

Everybody uses a flow so differently.

And so we found that, wow, when we do pairwise programming, we actually learn so much from each other.

And, but, and then the other thing too, is we, we make sure that like, we also have the maker time together too.