Fiona Hayes

Now, that has changed, obviously, when I would have been playing.

It would have been a very short time.

You would have absolutely flogged a big horse on the pitch and you might come on for four or five minutes.

And there probably was a big difference sometimes between the bench and the girls.

I feel like they have...

nailed it in camp there is a lot of competition he's obviously stuck with certain players as line of callers and different thing but you can see that when girls get a chance they're trying to make an impact it's it's just I suppose that one game when the way I'm looking at it is they probably the physicality the hits the level it was very hard for them to come off a bench and go straight into that

Yeah, Owen, and you know, as well as that, a lot of people I'm chatting to that kind of just watching women's rugby would say, but sure, they finished third the last couple of years or they finished third before recently.

You know, you're right, it is different.

They haven't beaten all, there hasn't been a clear, this is the third round.

best team in the Six Nations because there's been a couple of losses that have given Ireland with other teams that have given Ireland that spot of third and qualifying for the World Cup as well previously so look I think that for internally they'll be talking about this that they have to kick on and at the start of the season I think you would have been saying we have to kick on and beat one

first or second England or France probably really focusing on that France game after that World Cup qualifier but I would imagine they've kind of turned it around now and say look we can establish ourselves going into the next six nations going into those internationals in September October let's establish ourselves as the third best

team in in in the Six Nations and really I suppose hammer like they'll be looking to really go after the last two teams because performance has to come up and it has in patches and they'll be looking for that 80 minute performance and if they can do that I think they could beat both Wales and Scotland well but they will have to have an 80 minute performance

Yeah, absolutely.

And there will be a little bit of pressure.

I feel like under Sean Lynn, I think he's established himself this year as the Wales coach.

Obviously, he came in just before the Six Nations last year.

He's coached Gloucester Women's.

He's an unbelievable coach, but I'm starting to see his stamp on this Welsh team.

All the girls have bought in.

They have...