Fiona Hill

There was no opportunity to retrain.

So the big issue in my family was education.

You've got to have one.

You know, you've got to have some qualifications.

The world is changing.

It's changing really quickly.

And for you to kind of keep up with it, you're going to have to...

get educated and find a way out of this.

And very early on, my father had basically said to me, there's nothing for you here.

You're going to have to, if you want to get ahead.

And he didn't have any kind of idea that as a girl, I wouldn't.

I mean, actually, in many respects, I think I benefited from being a girl rather than a boy.

There was no expectation that I would go into industry.

There was some kind of idea that maybe if I got qualifications, I could be a nurse.

My mother was a midwife.

And so she, at age 16, left school and gone to train as a nurse and then as a midwife.

I had other relatives who'd gone to teach in local schools.

And so there was an idea that women could get educated.

And there was a kind of a range of things that you could do.

But the expectation then was...