Fiona Hill

It wasn't like what you think about some kind of like big political trade union with, you know, left-wing, you know, kind of ideas.

In fact, they actually tried to root out later after the Bolshevik revolution in the Soviet Union, even when they were still having ties with players like the miners of Donbass in the 1920s, Trotskyites and, you know, kind of Leninists and, you know, communists.

They were more focused on how to improve their own well-being.

you know, what they call the welfare.

They had some welfare societies where they were kind of trying to think, and that's kind of what baristas in Starbucks want or workers in Amazon.

They're looking about their own wellbeing.

It's not just about pay and work conditions.

It's about what it means to be part of this large entity because you're not feeling that same kind of connection

To politics, you know, at the moment, because, you know, being told by a representative, sorry, I don't represent you because you didn't vote for me.

You know, if you're not a Democrat, you're not a Republican, you're not red, you know, you're not blue, you're not mine.

And so people are saying, well, I'm in this work class.

This is kind of my collective.

You know, this is, this is, you know, therefore, this is why I'm going to have to try to push to make change.

So, I mean, this is kind of happening here and we have to, you know, realize that, you know, we've kind of gone in a way full circle back to that, you know, kind of period of the early emergence of sort of mass labor and, you know, that's where the political parties that we know today and, you know, the kind of early unions came out of as well.

This sort of feeling of a mass society, but where people weren't really able to get together and implement or push for change.

Yeah.

I don't disagree, but what I'm saying is people are basically looking for something here.

This is why I myself am starting to think about much more local kind of solutions to a lot of these kind of problems.

It's, again, the teamed, networked approach.

I think it weakened, in many respects, just the way that it was conducted.