Fionnán Sheahan

But

When you start seeing him getting up to that 24% to lead in the polls, it is going to result in substantial wins in the local elections for him, which will then pave the way for winning seats beyond that in Westminster.

Yeah, so as you say, they're an English nationalist party.

They would be accused of being far right in certain areas.

But yeah, anti-EU, strong, in inverted commas, on immigration.

Why is it that reform have succeeded where there was kind of other parties in this space previously, the likes of UKIP, that didn't really get too far.

They still ended up kind of being niche.

Why is reform broken into the mainstream?

Yeah, blaming the political elites and the establishment.

We're getting a bit of that over here in our politics as well.

Right.

So we're quite familiar now with Nigel Farage.

He was very prominent, obviously, a decade ago in the Brexit debate.

But then Boris Johnson probably outshone him over the course of the following years, whereas he's now emerging as a political force in his own right.

But what's his background and why did he get into politics in the first place?

Yeah, and yet he's triumphing off the back of that disaster.

Why is he interested in Irish politics?

We'll have to explain the background here.

Talk to me about Cameo and what was he doing there?

Again, one of his side gigs.