Fionnán Sheahan

So that puts him on the opposition benches.

Danny to go with him.

Then that puts the pressure on other independents.

So it was quite clear that the Healey Ray brothers had been feeling the heat on this issue over the course of the week.

Danny Healey Ray turning up at a protest himself the other day.

Yeah, in Killarney.

Yeah, and there were, you know, there was a lot of his, he was messaged, Michael Healy Ray was said to be messaging back to people who were contacting him, basically saying, thank you for taking the time to write me.

I want to say at the outset, I fully understand the frustration, anger and pressure that you and so many others are working.

So he was coming out with, I understand where you're coming from.

So this was

Probably, given that it's an issue that came so much out of the blue, this wasn't the one that people thought he was going to go over.

This is nonetheless a significant development.

You're going to have two TDs down by the end of tonight.

You're going to have that fourth leg of the stool of government because the Healey Rays said they were separate to the... They're not part of the Lowry lackeys.

as the opposition calls them.

A week ago, Michael Healy-Ray was saying that he was part of rural independence.

They were saying they were separate to Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, rural independence and Healy-Ray independence.

Significant, as you say, 13 months.

When I go back to when I was first covering politics, 1997 to 2002, their late father, Jackie Healy-Ray, who's very much...

I would say the creator of the modern day rural independent.