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I got to keep going back to that because as I'm digging deeper, I start to find out about conferences.
I started digging about conferences and come to find out, I remember that I was in the public library.
And when I was in the public library,
They got this, it's like a newspaper, not a Wall Street Journal, it's like a Financial Times type of paper, right?
And it was just talking about a lot of stuff that was going on, and one of it was, they had an underwriters conference, just out of the blue, I'm looking at it, and the underwriters conference was in Dallas, Texas, at a Crowne Plaza Hotel downtown.
So if anybody here knows Dallas, Texas, you know the Crowne Plaza, that Crowne Plaza had an underwriters conference.
And so I went there, and that's what I talk about in the books all the time, like when I went to that conference.
And then when I went there, in order to go to that conference, I don't know what the price was, was it?
But I knew it was like $600, $700, $800.
I knew it was a lot of money, right?
And in order to get there, you've got to pay that, right?
And sometimes you've got to be affiliated with somebody who's sending you.
Like is there a bank that's sending you an organization, a financial system, and that sort of thing?
So when I'm finding this out, I just always know, let's go back, Matt, when we talked about before, the people that make the lowest amount of money, right, they control the most, like I was telling you about the debt collector.
Under this right here, finding out with them is that the person that's controlling the whole place, right, I'm looking at everybody's walking around at this conference and they got this thing on their neck, right?
And when they got this thing on their neck, they able to walk and people let them walk freely.
So I'm like, whoa, how do I get one of those things on my neck?
And I just remembered that the lowest cost person.
And so I remember asking one of the guys there something, and then they got a security guard that kind of, they got what you call a registration desk.
And at this registration desk, this allows people that are signed up for the conference to come there and get whatever they come into the conference for.