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And so that's what I'm talking about, that conglomerate of you joining forces, doing all different types of other types of fraud.

And auto at that time just happened to be another, just happened to be an extension of what was going on.

The bread and butter of everything was actually going to the bank, going to get these loans, because like you had before, we were just talking, the no fear factor, sitting...

I don't give a damn what nobody tells me.

The hardest shit in the world is sitting in front of somebody else as another person, in another person's name.

And that shit's hard, right?

And then you've got to still be cool, calm, and collective, making sure that the whole process lines itself right.

And as you go back, you start to say, hey, now this bank is for that person.

This bank is for this one.

This is a nation.

I take you back to what the hell was it?

It's all of these different types of banks that you just got to figure out which way I'm going to go to it and what I'm going to get from it.

You know what I'm saying?

Oh, this is interesting here.

So this is going on.

After that automobile stoke, that's why that pretty much kind of was the –

more of the turning curve to how things went south.

Because as you know, once something goes left under that demeanor, right, people are trying to get out of their situation, which creates other situations.

Right.

And they got jammed up on that on the automobile snug.