Frances Fry
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Frances, we are more than halfway through the year now, gearing up for a quick summer break. I feel like so far we've done what we came to do on the show. I completely agree. I have loved the master fixers, the teach-ins. I think we've done everything. I think it's been a good semester. And, you know, I might be most proud about the fact that we give just enough advice. Yeah, I agree.
I feel like we have been holding back a little bit, I have to say. I think restraint has been a theme of the first half of this year. I think so. And it's unnatural for me, as you know. I think it, I say it, is usually how I operate. But for our listeners, I'm trying to moderate a little bit.
We're never outrunning the lion. We're never bringing down the woolly mammoth. We are just in this state of activity without any return. It almost feels criminal that we're exhausted and we don't even get excellence for it. We're exhausted and mediocre. If I was going to be mediocre, I'd like to be well rested. Yeah.
She did just a breathtaking study, which compared teams that everyone was always on. It was in professional services where your client needs you to be always on. She had teams that were always on, individuals were always on, and then teams that were collectively always on, but individually had scheduled a time off.
Yksityiskohtaisesti parempi tehtÀvÀ. Yksityiskohtaisesti parempi tehtÀvÀ. Yksityiskohtaisesti parempi tehtÀvÀ. Yksityiskohtaisesti parempi tehtÀvÀ.
The scheduled time off for individuals. Yeah, I was going to ask, so I'm in a culture, there's an implicit expectation that I'm always on. What's the remedy? I think make always on a group thing, even a duo thing. So one of us will be always on. Got it. That's, I think, the way, and that's how she designed the experiment, because we don't want to give less service to the client, but we want our team to be able to deliver higher quality when they are on.
Jos se on Anne ja Francisin ryhmÀ, voimme olla aina kulttuurissa, mutta Anne on yksi osa aikaa, ja Francis on toinen osa aikaa. KyllÀ, ja minÀ sanoisin, ettÀ meillÀ on aina kulttuurissa arvoa asiakkaalle. MeillÀ ei ole aina kulttuurissa. MeillÀ on aikaa kulttuurissa.
KyllÀ. Minulla on aina Leslie Perlow, joka kÀsittelee minulle, ettÀ minun tÀytyy ottaa jatkuvaa aikaa pois. Minun tÀytyy lopettaa uudistuksen. En usko, ettÀ mitÀÀn muuttaa sitÀ. MeidÀn on jatkuvaa aikaa pois, joka on aina olemassa, koska jokaisella sÀÀstöllÀ se ei toimi. Mutta nyt, kun olen elÀmÀssÀ, se on yleensÀ vaikutuksen vaikutus.
Jokainen, joka haastaa tÀtÀ, rakentaa ihmisen biologian, joka tarkoittaa sitÀ, ettÀ olemme suunniteltaneet rauhoittumaan, rauhoittumaan ja rauhoittumaan, rauhoittumaan ja rauhoittumaan, eikÀ niitÀ marathoimia työelÀmÀÀ, joita yritÀmme elÀÀ. KyllÀ. Ja ne ovat sekÀ marathoimia työelÀmÀÀ, joita toiset ihmiset ovat vaikuttaneet meihin, mutta me myös teemme niitÀ olemme. Katsotaanpa, ettÀ me otamme huoneemme lukioon. Minun tÀytyy kertoa, ettÀ en usko, ettÀ se on siksi, ettÀ joku muu vaikuttaa meihin. Luulen, ettÀ se on sisÀinen töyli.
Joten luulen, ettÀ meidÀn tÀytyy omistaa se ja sitten kÀyttÀÀ sitÀ normaaleja ja informaaleja voimia, joita meillÀ on, jotta pyritÀÀn uusiin asioihin. Koska tÀmÀ ei toimi. Ja se on hyvÀ aika kokeilla. Maailma nÀyttÀÀ erittÀin avoimena. Kaikki tuntevat asiaa. Nyt on hyvÀ aika kokeilla ratkaisuja.
So, Francis, is there some kind of optimal schedule here? There is not. So, interestingly, intentionality gets the headline. You have to be intentional about the off time, but it doesn't say you have to do it between the hours of nine and five, and you have to do it from here to there. There was no evidence that one was universally better than the other, but the intentionality of the off, that was the key ingredient. Beautiful.
is true for the emotions of leaders, which is this broadcast feature you have. So what do I do if that's part of my challenge at work? So my operations DNA will say that you have two tools. If there's something that you need to not get the full strength of it, you either reduce it or you accommodate it.
NiitÀ on vain kaksi valtaa? NiitÀ on vain kaksi valtaa. Jouduit tai sopivat. Jouduin. Minusta se on se, mitÀ minÀ teen. Jouduin sen mÀÀrÀn, ettÀ toisen ihmisten ilmoitukset vaikuttavat minulle, vÀhentÀmÀllÀ interaktiota toisten ihmisten kanssa. Lopulta karantinoin. HeidÀn tai minun. Se on hyvÀ strategia.
Not everyone can reduce in every context. If you can't, you have to figure out how to palatably accommodate, how to palatably accommodate it. As good as I am at reducing, that's how bad I am at accommodating, which is why I'm so good at reducing. So I want to be super clear.
Mutta annan sinulle toinen vaihtoehto, koska minulla on mahdollisuudet vÀhentÀÀ. YleisöllÀ olisi Mel Robbins' Let Them. Se on mahtava ympÀristö. Se on viimeinen ympÀristö. MikÀ on Let Them? MikÀ on Let Them? Se on mystiikki, jos kysytÀÀn minua.
If someone else is doing something that feels negatively, emotionally contagious, let them. If they're being passive-aggressive, let them. If they're being inconsiderate, let them. And she just goes through this mantra of instead of trying to control it, you let them. And then you do your own inside job of you get to choose how to respond to it. But you...
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Maybe I have signed up for your pain, Francis. Well, I'm very grateful for it. Part of the contract, but that does not scale to the rest of the world. I think we should think about reduce and accommodate. I will go ahead and give a hierarchy. Reduce everywhere you can, which is quarantine, limit, contain.