Francesca Rudkin

And then occasionally something will come up and we're trying to make something happen and we'll go, should we throw the D card in?

We throw the D card in.

We're a bit naughty.

You've got to use what's at your disposal.

But I'd also love it if you could just share a little bit about your experience with burnout because I think that this is another really common symptom that women have with ADHD, especially when they hit perimenopause.

Where does that perfection come from?

That desire for perfection come from?

We can't thank you enough.

for not only the work you do and talking to us today about ADHD and perimenopause, but for sharing your stories.

Because I think that that's...

That's the heart of it, right?

There's just this – you're so genuine about diving into this and exploring it.

And as you say, your mind's been blown open by it all and everything, and so is ours.

So we just – we can't thank you enough, Sonia.

And look, we will be thinking of you in two weeks and one day.

Yeah.

Sorry we've added to your load.

It's like life balance.

If someone else tells you to get life balance and you're just sitting there overloaded.

Yeah, yeah.