Francis Foster

So...

there's actually nothing we can do to stop people playing with this fire, right?

Is that fair?

That hasn't prevented the existence of nuclear weapons or their continued development, right?

No.

Oh, that's the interesting thing, because that's not true in the polls.

People will say, yes, we want action on climate.

But then when you ask them how much they're willing to spend on achieving that, they'll say something like £10 a year.

It's some ludicrously small amount.

They're actually not willing to spend all it takes.

Well, that's because they've been lied to by policymakers.

But people are starting to see through that.

In the UK, we are only responsible for 0.8% of global emissions.

So we could cut to zero ourselves and literally it makes no difference to global climate change.

Secondly, our net zero policies measure territorial production emissions.

By making our energy expensive, we're incentivising offshoring of manufacturing.

So we could meet our target tomorrow by just shutting down all our manufacturing.

But the result of that is global emissions go up.

And this is what annoys me so much about what Labour's doing, is they just don't seem to be willing to accept that they're making global emissions higher.

Miliband repeats time and again, we must act because of the climate emergency.