Francis Foster

So what is it that we need to do to ensure humans are thriving on the planet?

I think one of the big challenges is we've got to redirect our attention from, oh, we've got to stop runaway climate change to realizing we can't stop climate change because we're not causing it.

So what is it that we need to do to ensure humans are thriving on the planet?

I'm sure you've had this question before, but very much in that spirit.

You're obviously someone who's worked in the mining industry.

Some people will say your beliefs are driven by, you said yourself, follow the money.

This is a convenient belief for you to have, given that this is the industry you've worked in all your life.

What do you say to that?

i can basically say what i think yeah and it's interesting i remember i've always had questions about this because there were there's just things about the whole climate narrative never made entire sense to me so i remember would have been probably 25 30 years ago uh my my grandfather was a scientist and he had many friends who were scientists i remember talking to somebody

one of his friends and I asked him, well, what about this climate thing?

Is it really the consensus?

And he said, there are a lot of scientists who think this is happening for this reason.

But he said, the people that are dissenters make me question because they are usually the most brilliant and talented ones, but they have to take a risk to speak out.

And it does sound to me, based on what you're saying and other people we've spoken to, that the things that you're saying are just quite hard to say in the social context.

And if people have watched this interview or listened to this interview and gone, well, you know, this is about their climate denier of all this other stuff.

I just go back to the point Francis made earlier.

Well, you know, scientists or some scientists have been running around for years now saying, if you say that your name is Stacey, you become a woman.

Right?

That's been the thing that we've all been told to believe.

And there's lots of other examples I could give.