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Robert, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you for having me.

We've been keen to get you on the show for a long time, as you know.

You've written a large number of books exploring human nature, what motivates people in their actions, the nature of power.

And that's a fascinating subject.

What are the key things that motivate people to do what they do?

And I'm not an expert on this, obviously, but I imagine, would it be fair to say there's a significant gender divide in how this manifests itself?

Men operate in a slightly different way to women on this, or not?

You're shaking your head.

Now, you know, you can court attention.

I can think of some examples.

This thing that you and Francis have just been talking about is a thread that runs through a lot of your work, which is the idea that what people present and what they are is different and necessarily so in some ways.