Francis Foster

But everybody believed it.

Nobody thought that was crazy.

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But it's so interesting when we're talking about that, because I used to work for TalkSport.

And for people who don't know, TalkSport is a radio station that goes out to predominantly working class men who, in their vans, driving around, et cetera, or in factories, warehouses, all the rest of it.