Francis Foster

And that's what ordinary people feel.

They feel as if their concerns are not being addressed.

So the elites are talking about net zero and being carbon neutral.

The guy who drives a van, he just wants to be able to pay his bills on time and make sure his kids don't go hungry.

And more and more, ordinary people are looking at their wages, looking at their outgoings and going, they're not mathing here, mate.

What about your party?

I love them.

Is that still around?

They're adorable.

But I thought if we look at causes for optimism, I think that the emergence of reform is a good thing.

I'm going to be honest with you.

I think the emergence of the Green Party is a good thing.

There is that side of the political left who I think are nuts, whatever else, but at least their politics are being catered to.

And I think what we're seeing now, actually, with the emergence of these news parties, is a more representative form of politics.

Because in the old days, you had Conservative or Labour.

And you go, how much does, I don't know, a right-wing libertarian have to do with an old-school traditional, dyed-in-the-wool Tory?

And, you know, the old-school lefties with progressive liberals.

So maybe what we need are these more kind of smaller parties, as it were, but are actually more representative of people in general.

And what people don't realize is when we're talking about immigration as somebody who was born in London, lived in London, grew up in a fairly working class part of London and has seen it change, the area that I grew up in is now very much more, way more middle class.

But you lose something when you have that amount of immigration come in because that sense of community, that social cohesion, it...