Francis Foster

And when he was asked about what should Britain do about the debt, he said that we needed to be more like Japan, which is to effectively double our national debt.

Yeah.

And he was saying that's how we get better public services.

Yeah.

And that's why we are where we are.

And that's the real issue is that, and it's not just Zach, there are plenty of people in politics who are just, they're just not serious.

And you saw that on Question Time.

I was looking at these people and they were talking and going, you're just not serious politicians.

It's not serious.

They're just peddling narratives.

They're just saying things that sound good and make you feel good.

But the unfortunate and unpleasant reality is...

they're not going to, the ideas aren't going to work.

And if they're not going to work, then they're pointless.

She says the one thing that she doesn't agree with you on is your animosity with Tommy Robinson.

He's been proven right on so many fronts.

Could there ever be a truce between you?

I don't say this lightly.

Last summer, Constantine and I spent a week with Ralston College students and professors in Greece, and it's genuinely something that needs to be seen to be believed.

I couldn't recommend it more highly.