Francis Ngannou

And then, and that's why like at time, my best, um, the best, something that I developed at time that was my, uh, kind of like my, uh, safe boat was like, uh, a virtual, like I have an imaginary, uh,

imaginary world in my mind a virtual world that was like I created a perfect family a perfect environment for me that I have my parents home I have my siblings and then I just go to school come back I have no problem with pens or with school fee I have everything eat three times a day and that was perfect it was just in my mind but that was perfect it was enough for me to escape from time to time go there chill with myself you know just

Like, you know, like just be, make believe and be happy.

Exactly.

And then that was my source of energy.

No.

At time, I was like six to seven.

Six to seven.

My parents divorced when I was six years old.

Yeah.

So nine years old was when I went from my aunt to the village.

And you're working at that point.

Yeah.

When I went to the village to my grandma, like the adoptive mother of my mom, then we started to... It was a village and the village was low economy, low income, like basically no income, very poor, even like to have...

food or something was really hard so everybody has to contribute everybody has to do something to work uh farming wasn't enough because we still need cash we still need money and that's when we start to go to the sand mine jesus so what does a normal day look like for a

Yeah, you go to the sand mine, then they give you those directions.

Obviously, you cannot work as an adult.

I was bigger than a nine-year-old kid.

No, at the time,

That was, at the beginning, I mean, I was too small.