Francisco Segovia

But it was about how do we teach people their rights?

How do we ask people who are not impacted by immigration issues to participate?

So that was the core of this work that we do.

And so eventually we created the Immigrant Defense Network, understanding that we had to work on issues of

narratives, what the dominant narratives think about immigrants, what is it that we need to do to keep creating a counter narrative that we are not the problem, but we are part of the solutions that society faces.

How do we train our people so they utilize their rights?

And so that was the core of what we had been doing.

So protesting is not the way that we frame it.

It's like know your rights and use them to do what the Constitution allows you to do.

So basically, under the Constitution of the United States, we all have rights.

Now, obviously, the rights for people without documents are more limited, although we still have rights to due process and representation and all those things.

And so the constitutional observer...

became a tool for people who wanted to document the actions of ICE.

And though by documenting that, not interfering with the obstructing an ICE action, but documenting was a tool that we had been using and relate that information to either lawyers or anyone else who can follow up on behalf of the person that has been arrested.

So first, I will thank you for expressing your interest.

And then I will suggest that to show up to the next training that we have.

And so it is a 90-minute training where you go through various presentations.

One is what is a constitutional observer?

What is it that we do and don't do?

The importance of documenting documents.