Franco Ordonez

Franco, Ordonez, NPR News, the White House.

I'm Frank Ordonez.

I cover the White House.

Well, I mean, Trump says they want a lot of stuff.

I mean, they've talked about no nuclear missiles.

They've talked about stopping the ballistic program.

They've talked about no proxy militant groups or support for those proxy militant groups.

Some people think regime change, but what they haven't been clear about is what they would accept in any kind of specific deal.

And Trump really has not explained his objectives to the American people.

He has not asked for any kind of special authorization from Congress.

And he really had a big chance to do that at the State of the Union.

But he kind of just kind of meshed up all these points together without laying out any kind of specifics about why this may be necessary at this moment in time.

Yeah, I mean –

I think that is fair to say for sure.

I mean, he is the vice president of the United States.

I was a bit surprised that he would come out and say that publicly, considering Trump, his MO is to always say that all options are on the table.

And the rhetoric that he uses talking to the public is often one of the biggest parts of the strategy for his team in trying to put pressure on the Iranian regime.

And that

Clearly, he is trying to put as much pressure as possible.

So I was surprised about that.