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Francois Chollet

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

This is what makes

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

This is the definition of generality.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

Like generality is not specificity scaled up.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

It is the ability to apply your mind to anything at all, to arbitrary things.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

And this requires, fundamentally, this requires the ability to adapt, to learn on the fly efficiently.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

If you're right, if you were right, LLMs would do really well on arc puzzles because arc puzzles are not complex.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

Each one of them requires very little knowledge.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

Each one of them is very low on complexity.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

You don't need to think very hard about it.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

They're actually extremely obvious for humans, like even children can do them.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

But LLMs cannot.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

Even LLMs that have, you know, 100,000 times more knowledge than you do, they still cannot.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

And the only thing that makes ARC special is that it was designed with this intent to resist memorization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

This is the only thing.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

And this is the huge blocker for LLM performance, right?

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

And so, you know, I think if you look at LLMs closely, it's pretty obvious that they're not really like synthesizing new programs on the fly to solve the tasks that they're faced with.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

They're very much replying things that they've stored in memory.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

For instance, one thing that's very striking is LLMs can solve a Caesar cipher, right?

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

You know, like a CISAS, I feel like, transposing letters to code a message.

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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution

And, well, there's a very complex algorithm, right?