Frank Ceravalli

And everyone views it through a different prism, which is part of the power dynamic that I think is at stake here that has left everyone feeling a bit uneasy about what happens next.

So,

How many people were upset?

How many people did he target with the phone?

And how invasive was it in terms of what he was looking for, why he'd even asked the question or what he's looking through?

I mean, all of that is kind of the reason why you need to have an investigation.

A great question.

I don't know.

And my assumption was,

And this is what happens when you assume heading into this that because the Oilers were asking, and I think one thing that I really need to get to the bottom of today is what kind of power does the NHLPA have in this process?

Obviously, you could make an argument that this could be a claim about working conditions for union members, which is certainly a bargainable claim.

thing that the NHLPA has grounds to step in on.

But really what we're talking about is employment between a club and his stature or status in the league.

And so theoretically, there are some that could make the argument that, hey, look, the NHL can stamp its feet all it wants, but in the end, really, this is just about the NHL and the Edmonton Oilers.

I don't think the league is going to bypass... It wouldn't even be in their best interest to bypass the NHLPA's concerns and allow Edmonton to do what it wants.

But the other thing that we're going to come back to, and I think this is probably going to be a pretty important thing, is in the absence of... There obviously are no charges here.

There's no alleged physical or sexual abuse.

Is this enough to prevent someone from

being employed and earning a living.

I think it's going to be a really interesting trial balloon for where we're at in 2026 with regards to mental manipulation, power dynamics, all those things that come into play when you talk about this sport and how you go about managing players and emotions.