Frank Gaffney

And look, I don't relish a war with Iran or anybody else for that matter. I just think, you know, it's the old Trotsky line. You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you. And a regime that has, as I said earlier, Mike, throughout its existence from day one, when the Ayatollah parachuted back in with our help,

You know, they've had this mantra in the streets, in their pulpits, whatever. Death to Israel. Death to America. And when they do that, it doesn't mean that the people of Iran who've been endlessly indoctrinated and brainwashed and all that want it or even would support it. But it doesn't come down to them. It comes down to the people who've got those weapons.

You know, they've had this mantra in the streets, in their pulpits, whatever. Death to Israel. Death to America. And when they do that, it doesn't mean that the people of Iran who've been endlessly indoctrinated and brainwashed and all that want it or even would support it. But it doesn't come down to them. It comes down to the people who've got those weapons.

You know, they've had this mantra in the streets, in their pulpits, whatever. Death to Israel. Death to America. And when they do that, it doesn't mean that the people of Iran who've been endlessly indoctrinated and brainwashed and all that want it or even would support it. But it doesn't come down to them. It comes down to the people who've got those weapons.

And I'm convinced we'll use them against not just Israel, but against us if they can.

And I'm convinced we'll use them against not just Israel, but against us if they can.

And I'm convinced we'll use them against not just Israel, but against us if they can.

The obvious answer is that a lot of other people who also have the capability to go into the market and get themselves some nuclear capabilities. The hardest way to do this, obviously, is to go put all the infrastructure into place, the nuclear enterprise, as we call it here. back when we had one, just go buy one or five or 10 or whatever you decide you need. But that will happen.

The obvious answer is that a lot of other people who also have the capability to go into the market and get themselves some nuclear capabilities. The hardest way to do this, obviously, is to go put all the infrastructure into place, the nuclear enterprise, as we call it here. back when we had one, just go buy one or five or 10 or whatever you decide you need. But that will happen.

The obvious answer is that a lot of other people who also have the capability to go into the market and get themselves some nuclear capabilities. The hardest way to do this, obviously, is to go put all the infrastructure into place, the nuclear enterprise, as we call it here. back when we had one, just go buy one or five or 10 or whatever you decide you need. But that will happen.

across the region. And unfortunately, what will also probably happen is that the Iranians will be emboldened to act quickly and not wait till other people get countervailing capabilities. And where do they do that? I don't know, but I think they certainly have made clear they would like to do it in Israel. And it wouldn't take that many nuclear weapons, as you know.

across the region. And unfortunately, what will also probably happen is that the Iranians will be emboldened to act quickly and not wait till other people get countervailing capabilities. And where do they do that? I don't know, but I think they certainly have made clear they would like to do it in Israel. And it wouldn't take that many nuclear weapons, as you know.

across the region. And unfortunately, what will also probably happen is that the Iranians will be emboldened to act quickly and not wait till other people get countervailing capabilities. And where do they do that? I don't know, but I think they certainly have made clear they would like to do it in Israel. And it wouldn't take that many nuclear weapons, as you know.

to pretty much finish off that tiny piece of real estate.

to pretty much finish off that tiny piece of real estate.

to pretty much finish off that tiny piece of real estate.

If you don't have it that fully enriched, it's not as powerful and clean and all that. But your point is very well taken. They're there at the threshold. And they've got these centrifuges running all the time, which we allowed them to have under Barack Obama's famous deal. And it's just a question of time. And you couldn't have said it better.

If you don't have it that fully enriched, it's not as powerful and clean and all that. But your point is very well taken. They're there at the threshold. And they've got these centrifuges running all the time, which we allowed them to have under Barack Obama's famous deal. And it's just a question of time. And you couldn't have said it better.

If you don't have it that fully enriched, it's not as powerful and clean and all that. But your point is very well taken. They're there at the threshold. And they've got these centrifuges running all the time, which we allowed them to have under Barack Obama's famous deal. And it's just a question of time. And you couldn't have said it better.

We don't have the kind of certitude about what is the actual state of their program to say we do have more time. And I think it's a bad idea to continue betting that that's the case. Well, Frank, on that...