Frank Gardner

You know, the Biden administration, for all their many faults in this, have... tried really hard to empower Ukraine, in their words, so as to get to a position where it would be in a strong position in peace talks, which hasn't really happened, but without coming into direct conflict with Russia. And that's what everybody is still trying to avoid.

You know, the Biden administration, for all their many faults in this, have... tried really hard to empower Ukraine, in their words, so as to get to a position where it would be in a strong position in peace talks, which hasn't really happened, but without coming into direct conflict with Russia. And that's what everybody is still trying to avoid.

You know, the Biden administration, for all their many faults in this, have... tried really hard to empower Ukraine, in their words, so as to get to a position where it would be in a strong position in peace talks, which hasn't really happened, but without coming into direct conflict with Russia. And that's what everybody is still trying to avoid.

As it is allegedly done in Georgia and Romania.

As it is allegedly done in Georgia and Romania.

As it is allegedly done in Georgia and Romania.

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Today has been the day of the Russians sitting down with the Americans. They've spent at least ten hours, probably more, closeted in this luxury hotel, the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh, the city I'm in now. I managed to get into the hotel and talk to some of the Ukrainian delegation. They haven't mixed at all with the Russians, as you can imagine.

Today has been the day of the Russians sitting down with the Americans. They've spent at least ten hours, probably more, closeted in this luxury hotel, the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh, the city I'm in now. I managed to get into the hotel and talk to some of the Ukrainian delegation. They haven't mixed at all with the Russians, as you can imagine.

The Americans are trying to keep them apart, otherwise it's a kind of French farce. The Ukrainians are pretty upbeat. They had their own talks with the Americans yesterday. And these are at a technical level. It's not a senior level. These aren't familiar names, apart from the Ukrainian defence minister.

The Americans are trying to keep them apart, otherwise it's a kind of French farce. The Ukrainians are pretty upbeat. They had their own talks with the Americans yesterday. And these are at a technical level. It's not a senior level. These aren't familiar names, apart from the Ukrainian defence minister.

He brought a big team with him, 25 people, energy experts, naval experts, military officers, diplomats. And what they've been doing is mapping out which energy industries facilities they want protected in a partial ceasefire. And obviously there will have to be Russian ones as well that are immune from attack as part of this deal. They've also been looking at the Black Sea, at shipping lanes.

He brought a big team with him, 25 people, energy experts, naval experts, military officers, diplomats. And what they've been doing is mapping out which energy industries facilities they want protected in a partial ceasefire. And obviously there will have to be Russian ones as well that are immune from attack as part of this deal. They've also been looking at the Black Sea, at shipping lanes.

We don't yet know exactly what their demands are because almost nothing is coming out of the Russians at the moment. The Ukrainians have been talking. They would love to do a press conference. We may still get some kind of a statement. And then, of course, we've got to read between the lines. If it says frank discussions, it means they argued.

We don't yet know exactly what their demands are because almost nothing is coming out of the Russians at the moment. The Ukrainians have been talking. They would love to do a press conference. We may still get some kind of a statement. And then, of course, we've got to read between the lines. If it says frank discussions, it means they argued.