Frank Langfitt

Because, you know, Whelan says Trump doesn't nearly have the support he'd need to change the Constitution, which, of course, if you remember, he recently said he wasn't sure he had to uphold anyway. And there's another way of looking at this moment, too. I spoke to Jeremy Pope. He's a political scientist at Brigham Young University. And he says even if the U.S.

does not slide into some form of authoritarianism, the long-term effects of this kind of governance will be profound.

does not slide into some form of authoritarianism, the long-term effects of this kind of governance will be profound.

does not slide into some form of authoritarianism, the long-term effects of this kind of governance will be profound.

Well, I sent them some emails laying out the various things that people are saying that I've interviewed, and the White House didn't have any comment. The only thing that they asked, interestingly, was the identity of one of my academic sources, and they wondered if this professor might have donated money to Democrats. I checked, and the professor had not.

Well, I sent them some emails laying out the various things that people are saying that I've interviewed, and the White House didn't have any comment. The only thing that they asked, interestingly, was the identity of one of my academic sources, and they wondered if this professor might have donated money to Democrats. I checked, and the professor had not.

Well, I sent them some emails laying out the various things that people are saying that I've interviewed, and the White House didn't have any comment. The only thing that they asked, interestingly, was the identity of one of my academic sources, and they wondered if this professor might have donated money to Democrats. I checked, and the professor had not.

You know, I'd like to go back to that scholar at the beginning, the one who didn't want to talk with his voice or name. I think he put it really, really well. Let's give a listen.

You know, I'd like to go back to that scholar at the beginning, the one who didn't want to talk with his voice or name. I think he put it really, really well. Let's give a listen.

You know, I'd like to go back to that scholar at the beginning, the one who didn't want to talk with his voice or name. I think he put it really, really well. Let's give a listen.

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. You know, I spent altogether about a decade in China. But on a daily basis, Aisha, you couldn't really tell that it was an authoritarian state, at least not the way that, you know, he describes or the way people would imagine it. If you and I right now, if we're strolling along the river in Shanghai, we'd be looking at these huge buildings.

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. You know, I spent altogether about a decade in China. But on a daily basis, Aisha, you couldn't really tell that it was an authoritarian state, at least not the way that, you know, he describes or the way people would imagine it. If you and I right now, if we're strolling along the river in Shanghai, we'd be looking at these huge buildings.

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. You know, I spent altogether about a decade in China. But on a daily basis, Aisha, you couldn't really tell that it was an authoritarian state, at least not the way that, you know, he describes or the way people would imagine it. If you and I right now, if we're strolling along the river in Shanghai, we'd be looking at these huge buildings.

In my old neighborhood, there are three skyscrapers. They're taller than the Empire State Building and lovely restaurants along the river. And so when you look at it, there's no sign of the authoritarian state. But here's the part that's super creepy. I could also take you about 20 minutes from there to a public park where I did some reporting.

In my old neighborhood, there are three skyscrapers. They're taller than the Empire State Building and lovely restaurants along the river. And so when you look at it, there's no sign of the authoritarian state. But here's the part that's super creepy. I could also take you about 20 minutes from there to a public park where I did some reporting.

In my old neighborhood, there are three skyscrapers. They're taller than the Empire State Building and lovely restaurants along the river. And so when you look at it, there's no sign of the authoritarian state. But here's the part that's super creepy. I could also take you about 20 minutes from there to a public park where I did some reporting.

And there are these little holiday cottages where the government would detain critics without any charges. They would just hold them there for days. And it would be really strange because kids would be playing in the park near the pond, around the cottages. The public had no idea what was going on inside.

And there are these little holiday cottages where the government would detain critics without any charges. They would just hold them there for days. And it would be really strange because kids would be playing in the park near the pond, around the cottages. The public had no idea what was going on inside.

And there are these little holiday cottages where the government would detain critics without any charges. They would just hold them there for days. And it would be really strange because kids would be playing in the park near the pond, around the cottages. The public had no idea what was going on inside.

No, authoritarianism in China is mostly invisible most of the time.