Frank Thomas

But there's so much that goes into a Super Bowl championship that's different than just saying, oh, that was the best player in the entire sport that individual season.

You do that a couple of times.

Yeah, you are 100% right.

Lamar Jackson's a Hall of Famer.

So when you think of the brief time, frankly, that Declan Doyle has been a coach in the National Football League, he's been greatly influenced by Sean Payton and Ben Johnson as the two offensive minds and the schematic minds that have presumably influenced what he is right now as a coach and what he will become as a play caller being able to implement his own system.

So the...

The volume of verbiage and personnel groupings and the things that are on the plate of the quarterback are really expansive.

It's really voluminous what both Sean Payton and Ben Johnson task their quarterbacks with.

Now, we've seen Sean Payton in the second go-around as a head coach in Denver.

He's been able to tweak things to kind of help Bo Nix along a little bit, to not have his egg scrambled so frequently with everything he's tasking him with.

And Ben Johnson...

That development of Caleb Williams, that development arc, it took some time throughout the season to get to that point where Caleb was the true field general, where he was able to consume, to diagnose, and to display everything Ben Johnson wanted him to within the Bears' offense.

So if that's where Declan Doyle is going to be with his offensive system as a play caller, it's a different circumstance now, where he has Lamar Jackson, who has already won two MVPs previously,

Probably should have a third MVP doing it his way.

Doing it in the way, yeah, multiple offensive play callers, but not within any offensive system that would rival what the quarterback is tasked with verbally and mentally post-snap within a Sean Payton offense or the Ben Johnson offense as we know it here.

So my impression is either Lamar Jackson will need to

sort of, I guess, continue to evolve as a quarterback at this point in his career, or Declan Doyle will have to.

And he's a very smart young man and a really accomplished coach for someone who's been doing it for such a short period of time.

So I would imagine you don't go into coaching Lamar Jackson thinking that I'm going to do exactly what was done before with quarterbacks who don't rival the skills of Lamar Jackson.

But I don't see...