Fred Katz

And Hartenstein used to tell me that he thinks Jokic is just a total genius. And so he would just, just... just follow around Jokic. And I think even Isaiah was just like, I think I probably annoyed him at different points and would just ask him basketball questions to pick his brain.

And Hartenstein used to tell me that he thinks Jokic is just a total genius. And so he would just, just... just follow around Jokic. And I think even Isaiah was just like, I think I probably annoyed him at different points and would just ask him basketball questions to pick his brain.

And he would tell me that Jokic taught him that passing is about passing with your eyes, certain ways to manipulate the defense with your eyes. And I always thought that was such a fascinating example. And I was like, there's got to be more examples of Jokic like teaching. We all know he's a basketball genius. You don't have to talk to him to know he's a basketball genius.

And he would tell me that Jokic taught him that passing is about passing with your eyes, certain ways to manipulate the defense with your eyes. And I always thought that was such a fascinating example. And I was like, there's got to be more examples of Jokic like teaching. We all know he's a basketball genius. You don't have to talk to him to know he's a basketball genius.

And he would tell me that Jokic taught him that passing is about passing with your eyes, certain ways to manipulate the defense with your eyes. And I always thought that was such a fascinating example. And I was like, there's got to be more examples of Jokic like teaching. We all know he's a basketball genius. You don't have to talk to him to know he's a basketball genius.

We all know he's a basketball genius. And I was like, there have got to be other examples of guys who have played with Jokic who have learned this ridiculously nuanced stuff that they never would have otherwise thought of. And so I started calling around the teammates and people who I knew already, people whose contact information I was able to get and asking him those questions.

We all know he's a basketball genius. And I was like, there have got to be other examples of guys who have played with Jokic who have learned this ridiculously nuanced stuff that they never would have otherwise thought of. And so I started calling around the teammates and people who I knew already, people whose contact information I was able to get and asking him those questions.

We all know he's a basketball genius. And I was like, there have got to be other examples of guys who have played with Jokic who have learned this ridiculously nuanced stuff that they never would have otherwise thought of. And so I started calling around the teammates and people who I knew already, people whose contact information I was able to get and asking him those questions.

And every teammate, current or former, that I spoke to of Jokic was like, Oh, yeah, you're on the nose. That's 100% true. And he's got this reputation of being a guy who keeps to himself and, you know, likes his horses and he wins the title and he just wants to get home to Serbia as quickly as possible. And every single person who I spoke to who's played with him was like, That's not it.

And every teammate, current or former, that I spoke to of Jokic was like, Oh, yeah, you're on the nose. That's 100% true. And he's got this reputation of being a guy who keeps to himself and, you know, likes his horses and he wins the title and he just wants to get home to Serbia as quickly as possible. And every single person who I spoke to who's played with him was like, That's not it.

And every teammate, current or former, that I spoke to of Jokic was like, Oh, yeah, you're on the nose. That's 100% true. And he's got this reputation of being a guy who keeps to himself and, you know, likes his horses and he wins the title and he just wants to get home to Serbia as quickly as possible. And every single person who I spoke to who's played with him was like, That's not it.

That's like the public persona. He doesn't like being front facing. He doesn't like talking about himself. It makes him uncomfortable. He's too humble. He's too modest with that. But like this dude cares so much about basketball. And here are all of these very specific, tangible examples of how much he cares about

That's like the public persona. He doesn't like being front facing. He doesn't like talking about himself. It makes him uncomfortable. He's too humble. He's too modest with that. But like this dude cares so much about basketball. And here are all of these very specific, tangible examples of how much he cares about

That's like the public persona. He doesn't like being front facing. He doesn't like talking about himself. It makes him uncomfortable. He's too humble. He's too modest with that. But like this dude cares so much about basketball. And here are all of these very specific, tangible examples of how much he cares about

why he cares, how it comes through, and how he's taught me about really specific parts of the game that I otherwise never would have known about. And that's kind of what the story became about. And it was really like a dive into Jokic's mind through other people.

why he cares, how it comes through, and how he's taught me about really specific parts of the game that I otherwise never would have known about. And that's kind of what the story became about. And it was really like a dive into Jokic's mind through other people.

why he cares, how it comes through, and how he's taught me about really specific parts of the game that I otherwise never would have known about. And that's kind of what the story became about. And it was really like a dive into Jokic's mind through other people.

I think he's really studious, to be honest. I mean, look, the number one reason that he's like this is because he's a brilliant dude. That's the number one reason. Does that mean he doesn't have to work as hard? Well, yeah. Maybe. That's how it works. I think if you or Dave or I watched as much basketball as Nikola Jokic, And honestly, we might we might watch as much basketball as Nikola Jokic.

I think he's really studious, to be honest. I mean, look, the number one reason that he's like this is because he's a brilliant dude. That's the number one reason. Does that mean he doesn't have to work as hard? Well, yeah. Maybe. That's how it works. I think if you or Dave or I watched as much basketball as Nikola Jokic, And honestly, we might we might watch as much basketball as Nikola Jokic.

I think he's really studious, to be honest. I mean, look, the number one reason that he's like this is because he's a brilliant dude. That's the number one reason. Does that mean he doesn't have to work as hard? Well, yeah. Maybe. That's how it works. I think if you or Dave or I watched as much basketball as Nikola Jokic, And honestly, we might we might watch as much basketball as Nikola Jokic.