Fred Katz

So everyone is in the back being like, can we get this freaking thing moving and being such New Yorkers about it and being totally perturbed as Kat is just like me and the sweetest guy ever holding out the trophies to let the fans touch it.

It was this, it was, it was an amazing moment and I will never ever forget watching that happen.

It was, it was so beautiful.

Yeah, 100%.

And it was a complete and total turnaround of, I'm going to say of reputation, because I think, and not character, of reputation.

If character is who you are, reputation is who people believe you to be.

I'm going to say it was definitely a turnaround in reputation.

It's amazing what an incredible player from can do for you and what getting a ring can do for you.

And I think people will look at him differently.

I think also,

You know, those, those things that we wrote about, you know, over the last two years, like those were all, those all existed.

Those were all true.

But the difference is between this and maybe other things that happen in a locker room is that people in that locker room liked Kat.

There was never a sort of, oh, get this guy out of here sort of feeling from the team.

I mean, maybe there were from certain fans or whatever, but that was never the case with the players.

Those guys liked Cat.

They appreciated Cat as a human being.

And there were kind of natural frustrations that came along with, you know,

being teammates and competing for a while and whatever else.

And as they got to know each other better, I think they all kind of became a lot more comfortable with each other.