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Fred Katz

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The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

It's going great. It's going great. Did you have a good trip to Canada? Yeah, it's going wonderful. Hamilton. Great trip to Hamilton, Ontario. I hear it's very industrial. Yes. Yeah.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I knew he was going to be really good his rookie year during that first round series. The Clippers played against the Warriors. Yeah. If you remember that series, he started in that series and he was so composed throughout that entire series. And if you remember that series, that was the year before the Clippers got Paul George and Kawhi. So it's like post Blake Griffin series.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I knew he was going to be really good his rookie year during that first round series. The Clippers played against the Warriors. Yeah. If you remember that series, he started in that series and he was so composed throughout that entire series. And if you remember that series, that was the year before the Clippers got Paul George and Kawhi. So it's like post Blake Griffin series.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I knew he was going to be really good his rookie year during that first round series. The Clippers played against the Warriors. Yeah. If you remember that series, he started in that series and he was so composed throughout that entire series. And if you remember that series, that was the year before the Clippers got Paul George and Kawhi. So it's like post Blake Griffin series.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And the Clippers are the scrappy upstart team that wins 48 games. And everybody's surprised that they win 48 games and they kind of take the world by shock. Right. And they end up playing a really competitive series against the against the Warriors. And this is the KD Warriors in the first round of the playoffs. I think they won two games in that series. And Shea was just making every right read.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And the Clippers are the scrappy upstart team that wins 48 games. And everybody's surprised that they win 48 games and they kind of take the world by shock. Right. And they end up playing a really competitive series against the against the Warriors. And this is the KD Warriors in the first round of the playoffs. I think they won two games in that series. And Shea was just making every right read.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And the Clippers are the scrappy upstart team that wins 48 games. And everybody's surprised that they win 48 games and they kind of take the world by shock. Right. And they end up playing a really competitive series against the against the Warriors. And this is the KD Warriors in the first round of the playoffs. I think they won two games in that series. And Shea was just making every right read.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

He was getting the ball on a catch and go. He was hitting the paint, and he was reading the low man, and he was kicking to the corner. He was making every proper read he was supposed to make. And I was like, you can't speed this guy up. And I think that's probably the moment when I realized – all right, this guy's pace is something a little different.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

He was getting the ball on a catch and go. He was hitting the paint, and he was reading the low man, and he was kicking to the corner. He was making every proper read he was supposed to make. And I was like, you can't speed this guy up. And I think that's probably the moment when I realized – all right, this guy's pace is something a little different.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

He was getting the ball on a catch and go. He was hitting the paint, and he was reading the low man, and he was kicking to the corner. He was making every proper read he was supposed to make. And I was like, you can't speed this guy up. And I think that's probably the moment when I realized – all right, this guy's pace is something a little different.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

You're not going to make him play at your pace, no matter the scenario. I think that's probably when I noticed he was going to be really good. That being said, I didn't sit there in that moment and say, this guy's going to be an MVP one day. I did not think that highly of him in that moment. I don't think the Clippers thought that either.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

You're not going to make him play at your pace, no matter the scenario. I think that's probably when I noticed he was going to be really good. That being said, I didn't sit there in that moment and say, this guy's going to be an MVP one day. I did not think that highly of him in that moment. I don't think the Clippers thought that either.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

You're not going to make him play at your pace, no matter the scenario. I think that's probably when I noticed he was going to be really good. That being said, I didn't sit there in that moment and say, this guy's going to be an MVP one day. I did not think that highly of him in that moment. I don't think the Clippers thought that either.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I don't think the Thunder thought that when they made that trade. I mean, I think the Thunder were really high on him. They thought he was going to be really good. They trusted their internal development, all that kind of stuff. But I don't think they made that trade being like Shea Gildas Alexander is going to be a perennial MVP candidate.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I don't think the Thunder thought that when they made that trade. I mean, I think the Thunder were really high on him. They thought he was going to be really good. They trusted their internal development, all that kind of stuff. But I don't think they made that trade being like Shea Gildas Alexander is going to be a perennial MVP candidate.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I don't think the Thunder thought that when they made that trade. I mean, I think the Thunder were really high on him. They thought he was going to be really good. They trusted their internal development, all that kind of stuff. But I don't think they made that trade being like Shea Gildas Alexander is going to be a perennial MVP candidate.

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And I will disagree with you, Dave, even though I wrote the story. I don't know if he's got MVP locked up. Really?

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And I will disagree with you, Dave, even though I wrote the story. I don't know if he's got MVP locked up. Really?

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

And I will disagree with you, Dave, even though I wrote the story. I don't know if he's got MVP locked up. Really?

The Athletic NBA Daily
Cavaliers clinch playoffs | Giannis gets 20k points

I can't tell you how the other voters are going to react, but in my mind, Jokic is firmly in the race. Firmly. And we'll see what happens over this last next month and a half. But it's too, it, to me, it's one of those situations where I don't really, I don't have a problem with either of the votes. Yeah. You're there too. There's something here where it's like bad candidates.