Fred Katz

And he's got some really messed up legs.

I don't think he has any on his knees.

He's had some ankle issues over the years, and I think that's the concern.

But like when he was growing up and they first doctors first told him about it when he was a kid, like they told him.

And like, to be clear, there's bowlegged and then there's Norm Powell.

So so the way that I first noticed it was Norm pointing it out to me.

So we're so we're in an arena.

We're in the heat practice facility, I should say.

And we're sitting down on the side of the court.

And I had asked him, I was like, do you think there's, because something that always stood out to me about him is I don't think anybody has a like steps back attitude.

farther on their step back than norm powell i'm not even talking about like how much space he creates just like the actual stride i was like do you think anyone takes like like steps back more on their step back more than you and he laughed and he was like that's funny i haven't really thought about that and i was like i just feel like every time i watch you step back i like vicariously tear my groin

It's it's it's just really painful for me to watch.

And then he was like, it's probably because I'm bowlegged.

So he added it.

So him and his trainer, AJ Diggs will, will watch a lot of guys.

He's, he's a huge hoops head and, and he'll watch a lot of guys and he'll be like, Ooh, I like that move.

So like when he was in Portland, he saw like Dame working on his sidestep three up close and he was like, Oh, I really want to study that.

So he'd say to his trainer, he'd be like, Hey, can you really break down in video for me?

Like the mechanics of this, how this happens and can we just work on this all summer?

And a few summers ago, he wasn't teammates with Drew Holiday, but he really liked the way that Drew Holiday used his step back to be able to get to the three-point arc when he was inside the three-point arc.