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We discovered that he was getting ready to auction off all of April's belongings and hadn't given anything to Kim. How crushing was that for you?
She was like a whirlwind. She would come in and she would make a lasting impression on everyone.
I've won a gun point, Dr. James Coughlin. He has a weapon.
This video changes everything. The husband of a murdered South Jersey radio host and advocate is behind bars following an early morning standoff.
She is. She latches on and she's not letting go until she gets what she's looking for. She's the mini April.
She made everybody feel like they were her best friend. Didn't matter who they were, the checkout, the parking lot cart guy. you know, hey beautiful, hey handsome, how you doing today?
She had a really rough childhood. When April was 11, her mother gave her brothers and sister up for adoption and April was raised by her grandmother and her brothers and sister were put into foster care.
You know, I think she had her thirst for being, you know, feeling loved. She just wanted to be loved.
She was an incredible mom. She seemed to just instinctively know what to do.
She always spoke to Kimberly like a little adult. And we used to call her Agnes, Agnes Beeswax. because she was this little old soul. April just wanted the best for her and gave her the best that she possibly could. You know, she worked hard.
She just was so caring, so compassionate. She just was an inspiration to everybody.
You listen back to that and you think, does she have a premonition? It's kind of like she was trying to tell us something, I believe.
I'm on my way, and I mean business.
Why would you want your husband killed? She really did not talk about it at all. I think she knew that it was an uncomfortable situation for everyone.
We were all trying to be upbeat and positive and like, it's going to be fine. We can work through this. You know, we'll help you out. But she seemed a little, maybe a little defeated. There was a look in her eyes that I hadn't quite ever seen before.
And then in hindsight, I immediately realized she came there to say goodbye.
People fell to their knees crying. It was completely, just completely shocking.
Valerie was an amazing human being. She had a light within her.
Losing her career and her reputation, I just think she just didn't want to live like that anymore. And mostly losing her daughter was the biggest thing.
I felt honored to have her as my friend. She was so successful and so beautiful and funny and intelligent.
She wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for him.
It was a lot of fun. We swam. We just enjoyed each other's company. She would
always prepare these amazing dinners for us.
She did not feel loved. Her husband was never around.
She gave me lists of women that he had slept with. She knew that there had been some adultery. I knew that because she talked to me about it.
It's hard to watch someone in that much pain.
She was just unhappy. There was a void that wasn't being filled there.
She was very much in love with him. She said it multiple times. I'm completely in love with him.
Very arrogant and full of himself. I've just never seen anything quite like that. And I've got a pretty strong intuition about people, and I did not feel good about it, and I let her know that.
We just talked about homework. We procrastinated over the weekend, just getting it done.
Not when she was texting me. At this point, I was like, okay, like, this is it. Like, they broke up for good. Like, she's getting back to normal. Riley's out of the picture. It just all seemed normal.
I was confused. All I knew is she was dead, and there was nothing I could do.
It didn't register in my mind. No one would expect our Emma to be, you know, dead.
He ended up telling me, like, that night he was so fearful for his life that he had stolen his grandfather's gun. And he showed it to me.
Yes, and I held it in my hand that night.
I was very worried. He reassured me over and over again that he was the farthest thing from suicidal. He was just so scared of these people. I had to get him. I had to get Emma.
Fridays, everybody's excited at school to see how well we do. It's what our school revolves around, so it's exciting.
I told him he had no reason to withhold the weapon if he had nothing to hide and that if anything, it could prove that he was innocent.
I asked him just outright, like, what happened to the gun that you showed me? And he said, I returned it to my grandpa. You don't have to worry about it. And his mom walks out and begins questioning Riley in front of me about the whereabouts of the gun.
He bold-faced lied to me just then.
He's frantic about getting caught. He was on edge. And he was like, the only thing we can do is I just have to get rid of it. I have to get rid of the gun in order for me not to get pinned for something that I didn't do. In order for me not to go to jail for something that I didn't do, I have to get rid of this weapon. That's when I knew he did it.
Emma really took cheerleading seriously. She really loved doing it, you know, it was one of her passions. She loved leading and she loved football games. She loved just being part of crowd appeal.
Yeah, I just knew that if there was a chance that he could get rid of the murder weapon, You should stop it. I had to stop it.
I was just fearful that maybe justice couldn't have been done if we made the wrong move.
He tells us that he doesn't have the gun on him and we have to go pick it up from his stepfather's house. He said that he had it done in the basement, me and Noah wait in the car. He didn't want us to come in. He comes back with his trash bag.
He was, like, putting on white gloves and waiting, everything. Very meticulous about how he got everything out. And then we just like kept waiting, kept waiting.
Actually, it was a good three or four, maybe up to five minutes of him having the gun out and getting other things out after Noah had already texted the keyword and that the cops finally, like, did show up to where we weren't.
Emma was very kind and warm-hearted, but she was goofy, too, at the same time.
She could do the worm. You know, all of her other moves were kind of like, okay, Emma, you should probably stop now.
No, he's a little nerdy on the side. A little to himself, kind of. From the outside looking in, you would just think he's just a normal guy.
They had fun. They seemed like they really liked each other. We were happy for her that she found someone that she really liked.
At first, it was just kind of normal, like nothing out of the ordinary. He didn't really talk to us, her friends, a lot, but I was just like, oh, he's shy, like new boyfriend. It just seemed normal, but then after a while was when we got kind of concerned.
That he didn't really have any interest in getting to know her friends and... He kind of became controlling over her, what she did, her activities.
He got more possessive and more clingy towards her and, you know, wouldn't let her do certain things.
They were really dramatic, I would say, just because... It was usually just like yelling at each other or just like harmful words towards each other.
When things got really intense and bad, he would wait outside her work for her to get off, and he would just wait outside for hours. Just wait.
I told her, and some of the other friends told her, just like... You could do better like we don't like him, but like she just kind of brush it off. She did her own thing.
Riley didn't speak to her the way that a guy should talk to a girl. It was just disrespectful.
Riley gave Emma an iPod Touch, and she texted him through the Wi-Fi.
This wasn't a good relationship, so she broke up with him. Yes, finally.
I'm getting these really weird text messages saying that Riley's been kidnapped.
Riley, he's like, I've been kidnapped. I don't know what's happening. Where am I? Holding his head like you got hit upside the head.
Well, we are done for good. She just came to the realization that she deserved better, like this wasn't a good relationship, so she broke up with him. And then we were all like... Yes, finally, like, it's happening, like, what we've been waiting for.
He would just, like, be, like, off to the side, like, moping, saying things like, I just feel so depressed, like, I want to hurt myself, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was just things that he would just, like, say a lot. It was just like a cry for help, I guess, in a way.
I walk in, and Emma's, like, coming out of the bathroom, and she's like, I'm getting these really weird text messages. Come outside alone if you don't want to see a loved one get hurt.
Yeah, she was just feeling really weird about it. I mean, it was a random number.
We end up going back outside, and we look, and we see a body laying face down, like just a dark figure.
And then we finally get to him, and he's holding up his head, kind of has this confused face on. He's like, Emma's like, why are you here? He's like, I don't know what happened. I don't know how I got here. I've been kidnapped. Someone dropped me off here. I don't know what's happening. Where am I? How did I get here? Holding his head like he got hit upside the head, kind of.
He was kind of up there near like kind of the shrub, like where those thin trees are kind of laying down.
Oh, like some Romeo and Juliet story.
Like some Romeo and Juliet story was my thought.
She's just a little girl. You think she's faking it? She has adult teeth? There are signs of puberty?
Ich war in der Schule. Ich war in der Schule für Ingenieurarbeit.
A bunch of us went to these bars on the Upper East Side.
Yeah, hang out every day, weekends.
Seine Mutter war weg und er hatte ein großes Haus. Es war die einfache Wahl.
I remember John saying, just come with us.
Yeah, I'm assuming that he was friends with one of the girls or something like that.
Es war kein Trailerpark in 8 Mile. Nein, nein.
I remember my mom getting a phone call from Karen. She made a scream that I can't describe. She goes, it's Karen. You know, Haley's dead. And I said, what are you talking about? And I remember I fell to my knees.
My sister Joni called me.
I screamed so loud. I went numb. I couldn't walk. My roommates had to carry me up to my bed. And I just, I think I couldn't feel anything, nothing made sense.
I was getting ready to go out on a double date with Christina, actually. And one of our other friends had texted me, hey, have you heard the news?
She was just such a bubbly person, opened up to anyone. She was friendly with a huge heart.
I called Sydney and I said, is this real? and she did confirm, yes, it's real.
When you think about the trajectory of your life, you don't expect something this tragic happened to your best friend.
We were both in disbelief, and the first guy that popped into our head was Orlando.
We did not have to hear about any suspects from the police. We did not have to wait for her family to confirm who it was. We immediately knew that it was him because of what he had previously done to Haley.
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Haley and I became close in second grade when we actually shared a class together.
One morning, Haley had sent me a Snapchat of her tires being slashed.
We met in second grade. Her and our friend Sydney both came up to me and asked me if I wanted to play, and I said yes, and we have been best friends ever since. Sydney, Haley, and I spent a lot of time together. Every Friday, we would go and get pizza. We would make some YouTube videos. All right, put the car in drive, and we'll go. Okay! That was a major part of our childhood.
And Hailey's car was outside of her apartment. The only person that Hailey could think of that had the motive to slash her tires was Orlando. Orlando was jealous of Hailey dating Kevin, dating other people, dating in general.
It was a night that she had been with Kevin.
And I guess that just made Orlando very angry. And it led him to slash her tires.
It did become a messy situation. Kevin and Hailey would try to rekindle their relationship, and she would kind of stop talking to Orlando for a period of time. You can tell that problems were starting to arise, though. You can tell there was a jealousy factor coming from Orlando. And you could tell things were getting messy between Kevin and Hailey.
But the biggest difference was that Orlando wanted to control every one of Haley's moves.
I'll be coming for you. He wanted her all to himself. He was very possessive.
At that time, he decided to just slash her tires.
And the next day, we told her to file a police report. And she did file the police report, so it would be documented.
Haley didn't want to ruin Orlando's chance of being a nurse.
Orlando did admit to slashing her tires and gave Haley money to pay for the tires to be replaced. And then they kind of just moved on from that.
I was very concerned for her, but in Haley's point of view, it was already handled, you know, it's fine, and that was that.
I was told from her and some of her friends that Orlando was becoming obsessive over her.
He would be mad if she was hanging out with her friends, doing something without him. He wanted to know where she was, what exactly she was doing, how long she was gonna be there. There was sometimes he would show up on her doorstep uninvited, and when asked to leave multiple times, he wouldn't, and he would just stay out there.
And he had the way with his words where he could make a sob story out of his life. And the type of person Haley was felt for those type of people, because she just had such a kind heart. So regardless of these things he was doing, she felt for him. When you have someone psychologically taking advantage of you, it kind of blurs your vision.
So I think for us, it was such an easy thing to say, stop talking to him. But it's someone she saw every day in clinicals. It's someone she had a history with. So it was a lot easier said than done for her.
Is everybody buckled in?
Growing up, we were both creative people, but Haley would go do field hockey and track, and she was athletic, she was intelligent. She was on every single honor roll that you could possibly want to be on.
It just made the emotions, you know, so much stronger because it's like now not only do we know that she was murdered, but she was murdered in such a brutal way. So that was really hard to accept and understand.
She was literally the greatest person ever. She never didn't have a smile on her face. This is not an easy office at all.
Haley was extremely self-sufficient. She grew up in a way where, I mean, her mom was a great example for that. Karen did a lot of things on her own. Karen basically raised her by herself.
When I found out Orlando had fled the country, I was extremely angry. The thing that makes me the most angry about the whole situation is that he just left her there. in that room, in that bed. And it's like, you do something so horrible, but it's like maybe you have this small fiber inside of you to like feel for somebody. But he didn't. He left my best friend laying on that bed.
And he didn't care. He has no remorse. And he's a coward.
She always wanted everyone around and everyone to be happy, and she didn't want anyone to leave her again, which anyone going through as a child a divorce feels that way. In high school, when people were normally rebelling and going out on parties and sneaking out of the house, Haley was the complete opposite of that. She was a straight-A student. She was a tutor.
He apparently was in a hospital there, and I believe somebody there recognized him and called the cops, and he was arrested right outside of the hospital grounds.
When we found out he was caught, it was initially a sense of relief, but then that also meant nothing because she was still gone. While we felt safer knowing he was caught, that just led to more question, what's next? We had no idea what was going to happen.
I knew that Orlando had dual citizenship, so I wasn't sure whether or not he would be extradited to the United States to have a trial.
Femicide occurs in every country, but it's not recognized as femicide in most countries.
Once we found out he would be going to trial down there, I was glad to hear that he was being charged with femicide and not homicide because what he did was the brutal murder of a woman based off of their prior relationship. So I thought that was a very appropriate charge that should be brought upon him.
When the story broke, I was still very in the twilight zone of, how could this happen to our friend?
The whole situation was very weird to me, but I was happy that he was being tried and he was being held accountable.
Seeing Orlando throughout the trial was one of the craziest things because he sat there looking bored the entire time.
He did not speak, which I know in trials, usually the person being accused doesn't really go on the stand, but it was extremely frustrating, because you're almost like, oh, you know, maybe you're gonna watch Orlando on this trial, and maybe you're gonna see some kind of reaction, or he's gonna admit to what he's done, and there was absolutely nothing.
She really did a great job. His defense was honestly horrible. They tried to, you know, pull that insanity thing or that he was under the influence of alcohol. I mean, it was all horrible.
It provided a sense of relief that at least that portion of justice was served.
it gives us a little bit of a peace of mind that, you know, we were able to get the closure that we needed, or at least that I needed.
Wake up alone with the fire in the hole
After Haley's death, we had attended her graduation, and they had a picture for her on the chair for the nursing program. So that was nice, and they said her name, and it was nice to be able to honor her in that way.
I started volunteering on a domestic violence hotline called RAINN, which is the nation's largest anti-sexual domestic violence organization. And I hope that I've saved at least one person from a situation like Hailey's.
I want people to be aware of signs of controlling or abusive people in their life. And I want you to know that there's help and there's ways to reach out to people. And if you have a friend that is in a situation like my friend was, please tell someone. And I hope that if this saves literally one person's life, then it was worth it for me to be here and relive this.
As a kid who grew up in Long Island, it's very common for you and a lot of your friends to go to SUNY schools. At that time, Binghamton was, I mean and still is, has such a high regard as a SUNY school. And so when she made the decision to go there, I was very excited for her.
I think Hailey was starting to become her own when she went away to college. She didn't really have too much of an idea of what she wanted to do right away and it's when she found nursing then that really clicked for her.
She was excited to be a nurse. You could tell she really had a liking to it.
She had always wanted to travel, and she thought, you know, maybe if I become a nurse, maybe I could do travel nursing. She hadn't decided on that, but it just opened up this world of things that she didn't even know was possible.
As much college is for the academic aspect, it's just as important for your social aspect to figure out who you are as an individual away from your friends and family. And Haley took advantage of that, which everyone going to college should, and she wanted to see what she liked, see what she didn't like, and take the time to figure that out before making any concrete decisions.
A couple of years into her college career, she told us she had met a guy named Kevin. He was very sweet. He was very cute. They hit it off. It seemed like they had a really good relationship at first.
relationship. He supported Haley in a way that, you know, me and my sisters supported Haley. He let her be Haley.
but I know that they always stayed in contact. So even in their off period, they were still texting. They would hang out periodically. Despite her liking to Kevin, she still had that itch to just meet new people.
Hoke-up culture exists. You're in college. You want to have fun. Like any typical college student, she was just dating around.
Hailey had met Orlando in her nursing program, sophomore year.
That I was made for you.
And you were him.
Their relationship started purely friendship. I know that through time, it became more of a romantic relationship, but it was never a, you know, a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.
Kevin and Orlando were in the same fraternity at Binghamton. I knew they were friendly. They were both from Spanish-speaking backgrounds, so they had that in common. So I think as the relationship with Kevin and Hailey ended, and then Hailey was on and off again with Orlando, Kevin, while it probably made him upset, allowed Haley to do what she wanted to.
It was very casual. She did make it clear to Orlando that she did not want anything serious.
Julie's been my big sister forever. She was my big sister that I took care of. Took care of her, and she took care of me. I knew she liked to swim. Every day that the pool was open, she was in there with me.
I rode my bike almost every inch of Calvo looking for Julie. All the way up to the mountains at the cross.
I remember I just dropped to the floor and then my husband caught me. I couldn't even stand up.
She asked, well, should I meet him face to face? And I told her, yes. I said, that way you'll know if he's telling the truth. And so that was hard for me because I said yes and I should have said no.
Friends of Lintel have remained hopeful, but tonight they gather to remember the person she was.
And I knew instantly something is wrong.
At some point, he implied an abortion. He didn't say it directly, but the comment made her upset. Good morning. Happy Valentine's Day. I love you.
He fixes it by saying, no, I was just saying that I support whatever it is that you want to do. That's what I meant.
And I remember just yelling, they got it right. They got it right.
And I think she would have had a house, very smart daughters, because education was so important for her. She would be a great mom.
Lantell Washington's nickname is Puffy. That was a name she had since her childhood.
Very funny, very passionate, very kind person. We didn't call ourselves friends, we called ourselves sisters.
She wanted love. She wanted a relationship. She wanted family. Lentel did not have any luck with men. I mean, probably none of us, but hers was just jaw-dropping, like crazy stuff.
She shows me a picture of him. And so I say, OK, he's nice looking. And she just started beaming like she started smiling.
He wanted to take her out and she asked him, she said, aren't you married?
He assured her that it's a divorce. They're separated. He did say that there was this two-story house, and the wife was upstairs and he was downstairs. They do live together, but they live on separate floors. He would go to her house. They would cook. Her daughter was there. So she knew that it was one of these complicated situations, but she could only go by what he was showing her. She calls.
He answers. He's available. He's not moving like a married man.
Yes, she was. I think she had her disappointments. And so now, finally, she gets someone who's Dr. Robert Marks. And he wants her. He's pursuing her.
She's pregnant with Robert Marks' baby. Right. And I'm like, oh my goodness, what is he saying? And she tells me he's happy.
She says, Dallin, that's the name. She said, oh, I love it. Then she tells it to Robert Marks. She texts me back and she says, girl, he loves the name. So he was excited about the name and he was excited about the pregnancy. So she was getting her family.
A family reunion like his mama, his daddy, you know, his sister.
She says, does this look like a couple that's going through a divorce? And I said, no.
And she says, he's going to pay child support, and I'm going to tell his wife. She said, oh, I'm going to tell the wife. She was upset.
At some point, he suggests that they get together. She says, do you think I should meet him face to face? And I said, yes. Say, this way you'll know if he's lying. I said, look him in his face and see if he's lying.
I was still living downtown and going to my classes and saw some of his roommates like off of the street and they started asking me where Patrick was. He kind of owed rent or money for bills that were going on and that they had been trying to contact him.
He wasn't answering any of them, and even then, he was barely answering me, which was, I knew, weird, because I was one of the few people he actually would answer for his phone, but he wasn't really picking up, so I told my parents that he did owe money.
I immediately broke down and the only things going through my mind were, you know, how upset I was and angry that I was that he didn't fight hard enough to make it through that surgery after hours of fighting already. My closest family member was now gone. and part of me broke in that moment.
College of Charleston has a pretty big reputation to be a party school. You'd be going to like house parties mainly. Drinking was a large aspect of it, but I feel like Coke and Molly and all that kind of stuff was definitely going around. But I think the biggest one, especially from when I was in high school to college and being at that college, was the Xanax that was going on.
We grew up in Charleston, South Carolina, in Mount Pleasant. Being out on the farm, me and Patrick were always doing a lot of the barn chores together. So mucking stalls, all that really fun, nitty gritty stuff. I was really close with my brother Patrick, and Patrick was always kind of a big defender for me. If I was ever getting picked on in school or anything, he was always there.
Because he was always the life of the party, creating a life celebration, like a final party was more Patrick style.
Just not knowing who it was and if I had met them was kind of making me have anxiety whether or not they would kind of be looking for us.
Was always a fighter. You know, he kind of, you know, protected his friends and all that, and he was one to never back down from defending himself, too.
Patrick was the most adventurous one out of all of us and was willing to do anything and try anything.
So continuing at College of Charleston after everything, I feel like you're just so numb. You're kind of just trying to get through your courses and classes. It was just all over the news at that point, like a college Charleston student selling drugs.
He would drive me along to the beach like super early in the morning before school to take photos for him. He was never really great at the constantly being in a classroom kind of thing. Patrick was kind of starting to party a lot in high school. He was so lovable. Patrick made friends everywhere he went. He was like a light that everybody kind of got attracted to and immediately flocked to.
Right after they started making us do these like drug course kind of things. They made that like a mandatory thing after that. But the school just didn't really mention it a lot. Students kind of talked about it a little bit and then it was done.
But he did start getting in trouble a little bit.
until the trial started. You were constantly just guessing and making up scenarios in your head about what really went down.
So finally getting to the trial like three years later was, you know, just like finally learning all the details and putting all the pieces together.
After Patrick was screaming for help after being shot, It was just one of his roommate's friends that was the only person that jumped in to help him, to actually put pressure on the wound. I mean, that made me just feel absolutely horrible. Knowing somebody was prioritizing the bags of drugs over a human life.
We thought it was going to feel great, you know, having that final piece kind of put to rest. And, you know, having that person kind of punished finally for what they had done. We, you know, thought it was going to be a nice relief and all that. And it honestly just didn't feel good at all.
Before I die, the world's gonna love me.
The College of Charleston was founded in 1770. So it's one of the oldest colleges in America. So you have this, you know, very old, timey vibe to the whole school. College of Charleston is somewhat of a smaller school, about 10,000 kids or so.
He liked business. He was really good with numbers. So that's kind of what he went into college thinking he wanted to do. Patrick was communicating with me about, you know, this new group of friends he had made that summer and how he was hanging out with them a lot and that they already had a house together they were living in.
And so they had invited Patrick to be one of the roommates because they had an extra room. So he became like, I think like the fifth roommate in that house.
Patrick was excited to be able to, you know, get away from the farm and have his own place to kind of live. He did move in with these people in that fall of 2015.
So he was introducing me to all of his new roommates. And there was constantly friends in and out of that house. The door was never locked, which is kind of chaotic sometimes. They were a lot of fun, and they were partying a lot.
Patrick made friends everywhere he went. He was like a light that everybody kind of got attracted to and immediately flocked to.
It was a lot of money, somewhere towards $20,000. Patrick was super worried about getting that money back.
He was starting that semester. He was kind of falling at the wayside with not going to classes and getting really depressed and not really wanting to get out of bed all the time. So I think that was kind of the hardest part when we got back was, you know, his schooling did take a hit and his mental health kind of was starting to go down.
So ultimately, by end of that January 2016, Patrick did drop out of school.
I heard it from my mother. To be honest, I didn't even hear what my mother said when I asked her how. I remember hanging up the phone, and I remember later asking, what happened? And she said, Thad, I told you already.
Brace yourself, yeah, you made it. Off in the hood where many just get faded. Because I done been through it all, but I ain't fed up. It's best you start from the bottom before you head up. Hearing it, it was like, damn, man. Like, he had done, you know, survived a lot, you know what I'm saying, to get to UM. For that to happen to him on campus, it was like, damn. That can't be true.
Coming from the projects, it's like a blessing and a curse. We know a lot of people are going to die. A lot of people are going to go to prison. And some of us are going to make it. But when Marlon got murdered, everything just was up.
Marlon was a positive guy in the community. He didn't stand for the violence. He wasn't for violence.
The Right Track program had thousands of kids. It was joining them from Lincoln Field to other projects. It was real popular.
I told Ms. Charney May how the gangs think, you know, one of the superior mobs should be a close casting.
Every time that I was down, he was always there to pick me up, my teammates, and everyone else that knew him.
This is our Little City area right here.
Marlon's house was another atmosphere for us, you know what I'm saying? But the volume was higher.
One thing about Charlie, she doesn't miss a court date.
The guy was just voted most improved football player on our team a couple weeks before he'd been murdered. Marlon was like a firecracker.
It was just amazing to me because she was a single parent. But you never could see if she was struggling. Charlie always kept a positive attitude, always told us about doing the right thing. Marlon was every bit of Charlie. You know, he was every bit of her.
A new star's at large, straight from God. I know times are hard, but only you can save you. So what you gonna do with the life God gave you?
He wanted to go to the NFL. I'm sure he would have went.
First round pick, New York Jets select. Marlin Balls, you know what I'm saying? Everybody would, yeah, boy, boy! You know what I'm saying? The world never get to see Marlin.
Marlon used to come to my house and lead the prayer. It was like he read the Bible, volunteered. He was different.
No matter what, he always had a good heart, you know, as far as helping people.
I met him when we were probably at the age of 11 or 12. He was already talking about the University of Miami.
He loved the University of Miami. We both loved the University of Miami. We watched football together.
In Miami, football was like the bullet we know we had with the aim at this to get us out of here. He was determined to get out the hood, man. And when I seen that, I had so much respect for him.
Marlon was military-minded, man. That didn't faze him. That just added to his arsenal.
That was like a dream come true when Earl and Marlon went to UM and I came at the same time.
He had to survive a lot to get to UM. For that to happen to him on campus, it was like, that can't be true.
It wasn't really foreign of me to think like, is he really missing or has he gone somewhere? But that's when things really started kind of being weird.
Find the truck created questions, more so than answers.
Oh my God, is this your house?
Karen Silkwood was a worker in a nuclear plant. She worked six months, then joined a picket line.
He said his brother texted him that they did make it safely. I don't like reading back through stuff. They just said, we're going up north.
I can't eat well when I'm nervous, so. Okay. Take a nibble of the cookie, baby steps.
Yeah. Test the waters, make sure the police aren't trying to poison me.
Chandler went to the farm because my mom's fiance lets him walk in the pool because it helps stretch out his legs, make him feel better.
No. I just can't see someone killing them. Like, that's the thing. Like, I thought, like, maybe they got into a car accident. Like, maybe their car's on the side of the road. Like, I even thought, like, maybe that happened and someone took them to the hospital and they're just Jane and John Doe. Like, if someone killed them, it would have to be someone they, like, didn't know.
No. I just, no. No. All my friends I've talked to, they're like, no. Not Chandler. No. Like, that'd be crazy. I just don't see him killing Mr. and Mrs. Halderson. Like. He had SpaceX, why would he jeopardize something he would dream of?
Yeah, they were just regular people trying to do their best.
It's from Snapchat. I don't know if you use the app.
It's from Snapchat. I don't know if you use that, but... That's him by the Wisconsin River off of Gulf Road.
And that's 8.58 in the morning. And then my phone always tells me what day it is, so it's July 3rd, 8.58 a.m.
I was like, hey, where are you at? Where are you at? Like, you're not responding to me on Snapchat. And like, we ended up calling. And he just said he was in a dead zone.
I don't know if it's that specific spot, but we used to swim on the Wisconsin River. OK. And it's one of the spots we would just go to. And I've only been there maybe three times. OK. But he's gone swimming there a couple of times.
It's from Snapchat. I don't know if you use that, but that's it.
I don't know if it's that specific spot, but we used to swim on the Wisconsin River.
Your daytime friends can't meet your nighttime friends, because then they'll know you're a liar.
I asked my husband the other day how to turn on the washing machine, and that's how he realized that he had been doing the laundry all these years.
Krista was one of these people who was always at work, and she always let people know what her plans were.
Because I just believed the parents were missing. And I just want them to be found.
The Halderson's aren't here. Their cars are here. Where are the Halderson's?
We pick a beer from the area the crime occurred. With sleuthing.
There's no explanation forthcoming as to why they're not there.
I was like, hey, where you at? Where you at? Like, you're not responding to me on Snapchat.
She was just so sweet. She just had just a heart for people, just sweet. She was just so loving.
And so this is a picture of me and Sabrina at the beach at her son's birthday. We became instant friends. Our boys are a week apart and we found out that we were married on the same day in the same year. Her husband passed away and so did mine. She was involved in a church. She's an amazing mom. She adored her kids and that was her focus then to be the best mom she can be.
It was one weekend we went, we took my daughter to a soccer tournament and we got a room for our kids. and a room for us. And that's when she shared her life with me, told me what happened, and about her husband being murdered, and that's when I kind of learned the story.
To me, it wasn't a good choice because it really didn't do good for her.
Behind the scenes, Gabby and Brian would get into arguments.
You know what is my absolute favorite part about the van? What's that? The fact that we have this nice big open floor for you to keep your dirty feet.
You know what is my absolute favorite part about the van?
Get my phone so I can call my mom.
She never told me about their fight in Moab. But I've seen her that upset before because of him.
You can't keep chocolate in Utah. Not in July.
I think our plan for today is to just hang out here in the tent.
Hello, hello, and good morning. Brian's stretching, doing some morning yoga.
I think a big reason Brian didn't want to do the vlog is because I think he was worried that the truth of everything would be on footage. There's that possibility that he says the wrong thing or reacts the wrong way while she's recording.
You know what is my absolute favorite part about the van? What's that? The fact that we have this nice big open floor for you to keep your dirty feet.
Behind the scenes, Gabby and Brian would get into arguments.
We were all going to the beach together, and he kind of just sat back there and read his book while Gabby and I hung out. It felt like a parent was watching us on a play date. It was very weird, but he was very nice. I do remember coming home and saying to my mom, she's like, how was it? How was her boyfriend? And I was like, he's a really nice guy, but there is something off about him.
I couldn't get my phone to call my mom.
You can't keep chocolate in Utah. Not in July.
Gabby Petito never goes outside hello hello and good morning
When I would call, he would always answer me or respond back. And when I didn't get that, then it began to make, you know what I mean, somewhat of a red flag.
It was common knowledge that Abraham said that he got tired of people asking him for money.
He was just like so excited about being a father and he would take a picture every day.
While Abraham Shakespeare was on a trucking route with his colleague, Michael Ford, they stopped at a convenience store.
And what did that text say? He was just out and just didn't want to be bothered.
I'm texting Abraham, and I'm getting texts back, oh, I'm leaving you for this woman, and we're going to the Bahamas. I got a reply from his number.
It was so suspicious as people were getting text messages because he couldn't read or write. And if it wasn't Abraham, who were the text messages coming from?
As their friendship began to blossom, Abraham and Dee Dee Moore hung out quite a bit. She became a major asset to him by helping Abraham collect on money that was owed to him.
I felt like I had a vested interest in finding Abraham Shakespeare, just like the detectives. A couple of weeks before it was officially announced that Abraham Shakespeare was missing, I met Dee Dee Moore over the phone for the first time. She promised that she could produce him and I could interview him, but that never happened. And it went silent.
And so that's when my red flag started to raise about this woman and who she was.
She said everybody else was taking advantage of her, but not her, because she had her own money.
There was never a plan to go to court to get child support. I never attempted to go to court to get child support. That was the end of the story.
So during the interview, we played good cop, bad cop. And I was the bad cop. I was the one asking the hard questions of Dee Dee Moore. Where is Abraham?
She was now living in his house. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, what would make her want to live in this man's house?
He opted to take home the lump sum of $17 million. But then after taxes, he ended up with $12 million.
This is the famous Abraham Shakespeare's ex-home where he rented and lived. This is where they lived before he won the lottery. Before he won the lottery. It was set up just like this. Nothing's changed besides painting. Pretty modest place. Pretty modest.
But everybody's there saying, give me, let me, let me have.
Everybody feel that's their opportunity to get paid.
But no one has seen Shakespeare, including his mother, who's beginning to think the lotto prize may have been a curse.
I answered the phone. I said, hello. Upon further investigation, detectives learned that the voice was Greg Smith, the owner of the barbershop where Abraham would work.
Greg decides he does not want to go to jail, so he helps investigators with their case. And one way that he does it is by becoming a confidential informant.
At one point, the investigation moves to a local hotel where Dee Dee Moore and Greg Smith meet.
Abraham had a strong friendship with Greg Smith, who owned a barbershop.
After that press conference, I believe she felt the walls closing in on her.
women with car full of kids would pull up and say, oh, the Lord led me to you. And I would be like, no, that would be Google Maps, honey.
He was a humble guy, humble, respectful. He wasn't a hard ass. He was a good dude. He didn't smoke. He didn't drink. He didn't do dope. He was just trying to survive, trying to make it in the world as most people do, but without being in the lam light of problems and trouble.
Even though he didn't have a whole lot, he was very content.
Authorities allow her to leave because without a body, they didn't have a case to arrest her.
On day one, there was nothing found. They kept digging and digging.
He said he would go to Denny's to eat breakfast. He bought a Rolex watch from a pawn shop.
She made it sound like she wanted to clean him out. Why do you say that? Because she wanted to know about all of his assets, and she was like, I can help you clean him out. It was just thought. a level of disgust to just know that this is what such a caring and giving person endured.
prior to winning the lottery. He would walk around this exclusive neighborhood and he would dream about living in one of those homes. He was able to buy his dream home for a million dollars in the gated community.
At the end of the night, he was like, where are you going? I was like, I might be staying in my car tonight. He was like, well, you know, you can stay here until you get on your feet. He literally let me as a stranger move into his house.
I felt like he did get justice because even though his life was cut short, her life is just going to be long and miserable.
When the baby is out and they bring him over to the bed, Abraham, with his long arms, he swoops in and he takes the baby right out of her hands. And he's holding him. And he's like, yeah, I got my snookum pookum.
When Abraham won the lottery, all of Lakeland and Polk County won the lottery.
The funeral was very emotional. It was a celebration of his life, but it was also very sad. To learn that he was killed for his money was just something that everybody could not understand. He was a kind-hearted person who genuinely wanted to help people.
Now you're dealing with all kind of people you want to look out for and people you don't want to look out for, but everybody's there saying, give me, let me, let me have.
I'll never forget, after they found him, I remember having a dream. And I remember in the dream telling Abraham, oh good, you can come with me now. And he kept saying, no, no, you'll be OK. That was enough for me to believe that I'll be OK. I really miss him today. I really just need to hear his voice today. I just want him, like bring him back.
But then all of a sudden, things go silent. And nobody knows where Abraham Shakespeare is.
There were days that random women with cars full of kids would pull up and say, oh, the Lord led me to you. And I would be like, no, that would be Google Maps, honey.
It got tiresome to him. He got fed up with it a lot.
Abraham Shakespeare was on the verge of losing his entire fortune.
Most people work and struggle to get millions. When it's handed to you, it's an easy come, easy go, and you're open game. And if you're not prepared for it, you're screwed with it.
One of the things that Abraham did was he set up a business venture in which he became the hood's bank.
I was able to immediately get in contact with him. He was upset because he thought that Michael Ford was a friend.
And she thought it would be cool to write a book about his life.
Dee Dee Moore is a self-made businesswoman, a very successful businesswoman with a medical staffing company.
She had her own money. She didn't need his money. And that became a trust factor for him.
All of a sudden, things go silent, and nobody knows where Abraham Shakespeare is.
Everything was well, and then it got quiet all of a sudden.
The big question that hung over all of this is what could drive someone to commit murder.
The Dunwoody police called me and said, we've made an arrest. And so I said, who? As soon as I knew his name, it just made my skin crawl.
She called and said, Rusty had been shot. She was so, so sorry, and that she was going to Dunwoody Prep to find out what had happened. And are you sure that she told you that Rusty had been shot? Yes, sir.
I always had empathy for her. But at the same time, there were all of these unanswered questions. And so those unanswered questions, you want answers to.
In my dreams, he comes waltzing through the door, just like he always did.
I was just in disbelief. You know, you never expect murder to step into your life, and particularly somebody like Rusty. and not only didn't know of any enemies that Rusty had, I couldn't imagine him having an enemy because he was such a positive person.
He had a very outgoing personality. He was very engaging. He was very funny. He was fun to be with. Rusty always had a lot of friends.
They'd been together a long time before they got married, and she was just part of the family then.
They had a good marriage. They had two young kids. They had a beautiful home. They had a wonderful life. They had a lake house where they spent their weekends.
She was feeling good about it. I think she liked it. I think she was challenged. It was a good change for their family, so I was happy for them.
When I met Michael, he had like a rat tail haircut and with the spiked hair. We just kind of developed a good warm relationship.
Oh yeah, yeah. He was playing like the peewee baseball. You could just tell right then. He just took to it and was just like a natural.
It is just sad, you know. We went to the funeral. It just all seems surreal. Everything's just kind of like you're like in this fog, you know, just unimaginable.
I don't know if it was the greed or the position or status.
Yeah, you know, they've just, they're starting their life now. Been starting their family. You know, they've got good jobs.
I was Michael's dad. He was a proud dad. He doted on his kids and was a good provider, was involved with them, the school activities and stuff.
Did he ever inject anything? Definitely steroids.
What did he get from Mexico, do you know? I don't know the name of the steroid, but it was definitely an anabolic.
He got sick, and I feel like around that time is when you could just notice that he started to change a little bit, just forgetting stuff all the time. And he was more aggressive. Towards whom? Aggressive? Towards everybody.
You know, I could just feel my, my spirit and everything just point out, you know, this, this is what it's supposed to be.
I missed her at my high school graduation. I missed her on the day I moved into college. I'm begging you to give her mercy so that I don't have to miss more.
Yeah. Not able to get up there to his gravesite. So I said, well, you know, keep it, you know, right here close. Anytime we want to go, we can just come right here.
When Donna and I, sometimes we kind of sit around down here, there'll be like a butterfly that'll come around. And I told Donna, I said, well, I said, there's little Michael. So we've got a little cut out flower over there that he's always down here.
I was just watching Diane and just grieving with her. And I noticed there was a large police presence. And I just thought that was odd for a funeral. But if they suspect the murderers to be there, then they were there for a reason.
He liked to have fun. He loved muscle cars. And as far as in the office, you heard him. He was a loud guy. He was one of those guys that when he got on the phone, you kind of put your earplugs in because he was pretty loud. Larger than life, he was.
So he would accept cash against a lot of people who didn't take cash and advise them not to take cash.
I was just all the way there saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's my friend. I wanted to make sure he was OK. I remember locking up my office. I had a client in there, and she saw how distraught I was. And I'm just in the car, just all the way there, saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Bob, no, Bob.
of course they're spectators, so someone said that someone got shot, didn't see Bob, didn't see him waving in the window, didn't see any sign of him at all. And then when they took his body out of the office, we knew it was Bob's body, because he was a big guy.
They are just separated by a river. So just hop on the bridge and you're in St. Charles.
So he would accept cash against a lot of people who advised him not to take cash.
Bob was a big teddy bear. He was friendly. He was bubbly. He called me wild woman. I think it had something to do with my hair. It grew on me.
His persona was just so, hey, you guys see me? I'm here.
We need to find my sister. We're running out of time. Everybody knows the first three days is critical.
Friends and family were gathering to pray for her return. We need to find my sister. We're running out of time.
You let my sister go, and I'll come and get her. I want my sister.
No. Whoever has my sister, please let her go.
I want my sister. Somebody please call us and let us know what's going on. We don't know nothing.
I don't know what to say about Zach. I love him. He's one of my best friends. I think he has the ability to become one of the greatest pianists of our century.
I met Zach in 2011 at Juilliard and very quickly we decided to build some projects and he started playing my music. I always felt Zach treating everyone with this equal, profound kindness. He was devoted to his friends, devoted to his parents, devoted to everyone he was meeting basically.
In 2013, Zach came to Paris especially to premiere my first sonata, which was called Sonata Mystica, the Oratoire du Louvre, which is a rather famous place in Paris. And it was a huge success.
He was playing them by heart and that was very, very impressive.
It was a pretty strong friendship from what I understood.
No tears, no sign that he had been crying, no, you know, struggling with his voice to get the words out. This is not a normal grieving husband. That's when I felt like something's not right here.
It was how Tony's life started when she got married to Harold. And I thought, how insulting and hurtful to Tony's family.
Most people didn't know that Harold was married before. I thought, oh my gosh, you know, this is two wives for Harold that have died now. The similarities are too eerie to ignore.
Most people didn't know that Harold was married before and that his first wife had died.
But I thought, oh my gosh, you know, this is two wives for Harold that have died now. Because we had some suspicions that Tony's death was not as Harold was making it sound, I made the phone call to the Larimer County Sheriff's Office. I did do it anonymously, and other people had done the same thing.
He smiles all the time. He laughs all the time. So when I first met him, I thought, gosh, this is a great guy. When we were moving quickly towards Lynn's and Harold's wedding, it was clear that Harold was in charge.
So Lynn and Harold got married, but then almost immediately, Harold was saying, we need to move to Colorado. So he takes her away.
I called Lynn one day and I said, can we talk? You know, this was a good time for me. And she said, no, no, no. Can you call back later when Harold's here? And she said, as a couple, we've decided that whenever we talk to family, we want to both be on the phone at the same time.
And I remember thinking, again, that's so weird. That's so controlling.
I ended up texting Dr. Henthorn just to say congratulations, have a great weekend, be safe, have a great time, see you Monday. And I never heard back from her.
I thought, oh my gosh, this is two wives for Harold that have died now.
That's when I felt like something's not right here.
He was telling me about what he's searching for in Hawaii, just to relax and enjoy his life. And I thought to myself, he's going to have a really good life.
We were at the book club and he was the only one who really read the entire book. I was shocked. Everyone was there for wine and food and he was the only one that was there for the book.