Gabby Logan

So it's quite the piece.

But unfortunately, I haven't got it.

Got it.

So so let's talk a little bit about the changing, not just your professional life, but as you're entering another change in life.

Big change.

Yeah.

With these four little people.

Yeah.

How I imagine it's just the most joyous thing.

It is joyous, but interestingly, I find the responsibility of somebody else's children, albeit that they're connected to me, I find it overwhelming.

You know, if I've got, you know, any of them overnight or for the weekend or when I had the two little girls, I had Peggy and Elsie for the weekend.

I find it overwhelming, the responsibility of looking after your children's children.

I love it.

Are you good at following their rules?

Fortunately, my daughter is quite relaxed and her husband quite relaxed.

And Peggy is quite a character, as indeed is her son, Woody.

So I'm quite a strict grandmother.

I do insist on manners.

Very big on that, as is Michael.

So there's a lot of, I'm not hearing the right word here.