Gabby Logan

Yeah.

That's my feeling.

Yeah.

And I think it's very, I think there's different dynamics with girls and guys as well, isn't there?

Very different.

Very, very different.

I remember when I had my children, because obviously my brothers had had children before me.

My mother said, at last, some children I can get my hands on.

Because there is a big difference between sons' children and daughters' children.

But fortunately, I have two very generous daughters-in-law who are very happy to share.

I think my takeaway from all of this, in so many things in life, and I like to think that this is what I've done, is it takes a village, as you all so rightly said.

Be that the girls I shared a dormitory with, be it the grandchildren, be it my own children, be it just friends, I think it does take a village.

yeah it's we need to look out for each other it's much more enjoyable to do it with a with a co-worker yeah and it doesn't matter who those people are that they might not be blood relatives it might be somebody that you've met who becomes very important to you that helps you along the way and you'll help them I totally agree with you I had a very good friend called Jane and she's now the mother of four at the time she was mother of two when I had Ruben and Lois and

and she was one of those incredibly natural mothers, or maybe she just read all the books and just seemed to be a really natural mother, but I knew she'd have an answer for everything, so I'd ring up and say, Ruben hasn't pooed for three days.

And when I wrote my memoir, I wrote about her as a thank you, saying that one day I'll write a book called Just Ask Jane, because everything was like... I remember coming home one night, she'd insisted that Kenny and I go out for dinner, and even though she had two children of her own, she was going to come round and babysit with her husband, and...

I came in and she said, I hope you don't mind.

She said, but I think the tog in their sleep suits might, well, she thought it was a bit too light and that's when they were waking up and she felt they just, yeah.

And I was like, I don't mind.

I'm thrilled.

Yeah.