Gabe

He's wearing a sleeveless New York Racquet Club shirt. Yeah. So cool.

Uh-huh.

How do we feel about Petro Pepperoni? Are you practicing Catholic?

You a big Catholic?

Amen, brother.

Whoa.

11.1. God, I'm good.

Yeah.

Doom, doom, doom.

Welcome to God.

Come on out, boys.

New people to meet. Just the ones where we came. The ones who've died.

We turned, and we found ourselves staring at him. Who's him? I pressed.

With a good crew and a terrific man at the helm. Son, yes, I do.

Stay safe, man. Please. Please.

Just be ready for my signal.

Nice try, Nathan.

I'll give you that. You've impressed me.

I was planning on waking everyone up in about 20 minutes or so anyways.

We couldn't have done anything to save him. It was just an accident.

I appreciate you saying that, Nathan.

There was a ship called the Queen Elizabeth that was built in the 1930s.

Anyone else notice we haven't seen a single TV on board yet?

Did they freaking leave?

This makes no fucking sense, man.

As long as you don't ever do that again.

Yeah, I'm fine.

Okay.

You know, as much of a fucked up situation as we're in, the only good part was hearing that song again. I haven't heard it since my grandmother passed away.

You like that kind of music? Honestly? I like everything about that time period. The 1950s, I mean.

Well... Which way do we go?

Hey, did any of you have anything weird happen to you yesterday?

Did something happen to you guys down there in the engine room?

All right. Guess it really was nothing.

No. No, there's no fucking way.

What restaurants?

Oh, fuck no.

Where's Will?

I'm sorry about that, everyone. Just... I just met the most wonderful woman.

The woman of my dreams, for sure.

Her name's Diana.

She's an actress, a singer, so intelligent and interesting. Oh, God, what a woman.

I'm not entirely sure I believe all this, but this is the actual Queen Elizabeth, and we're aboard an actual ghost ship.

The hell was that?

I'm honestly torn, boys. Part of me thinks we should immediately try finding him.

Um, sir, before I do that, there's something you all need to see.

Jesus.

You're only delaying the inevitable, gentlemen.

Honestly, Nate, I've had the same thought.

Piece of shit!

I'm not going to risk you boys with my shiver.

I would lend you money any day of the week, but, you know, I'll give you money.

$65,000.

It wasn't that. Wait, wait, wait.

100%.

I'm like... Bob's the only guy who would show up.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Bob would show up to trial with a literally if it was full coverage.

They're just chain-smoking darts. They're literally on the one-cent machines. You know the ones that say one cent? Those are the ones that they play there.

All I'm picturing are you getting in an argument with one of the hosts screaming at them about how big of a slot player you are at the Red Rock. No, no, I'm a massive player.

I think this is your jersey, too.

If you could handle with your people, maybe we'd deport her out of the States because we might have to get Lily Phillips out of here before. She can stay.

Okay, but wait.

Golf match?

So me and Gabe took about a 30-minute break. And we went back to the hotel to recharge. When we come back, and this place is dead. Take a look. Like, not a single protester inside. And just 20 to 30 minutes ago, it was completely packed with protesters. So, one of two things. Either A, they were paid and their time was gone. You know, they're off work. They get to go.

Or B, they're literally just a cult and they all left at once. Like, it's one of the two options. You tell me.

These people, yeah. They have no idea what they're even protesting, dude.

Seems reasonable. Listen.

I don't get it. I do.

I mean, dude, like... We got to do better. I don't know, man. I don't know the solution, but I know that...

Intentionality. I mean... Thank you.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, look, man. What an idiot, man. Yeah. Pretty fucking stupid. Yeah.

But there's going to be people that just completely... You know what I don't know what's gonna happen It's just Society seems to have lost its moral compass and

Yeah, but that's, again, going back to sex, not gender. Gender doesn't exist. And that's where the disagreement comes.

Multi-decade. All right, man. That's all right. Are we good? Do you have anything else to say?

Oh, OK.

I feel OK. Now I think you're just a liar. You said you liked my dress. All right. I'm good to go. Thank you. Did I earn a hat? Did I earn a hat?

from conservatives, and I won't say all of them, but it's a common thing, and I think a lot of it just comes down to hating to hate. I want to know where you stand on that. Nice dress, by the way.

Yes.

Oh, like what I'm, you don't like it?

I think I pull it off. No, I'm just having fun, man. You might not believe me, but I'm a straight, heterosexual, cis man. Cis is short for cisgender. I'm just using slang. Yeah, and I just wanted to come on here. It's maybe not just for you, but I just wanted to say that there's a lot of hatred on gay people, on trans people. And there's a lot of legislation that's going against it.

And I want to know where you stand as a conservative.

No, I shouldn't.

No, I don't think men should go against women.

No, that's not true.

So there's there's trans females that are being denied.

People didn't like that.

You're right. That's the wrong term. Trans women.

You're right. What is a trans woman? I think it's someone who was born male and now they identify as female.

At what point do they become... It's not that deep.

When they say they are. I think it's... I think... Okay, listen, listen. I think what's getting confused here is...

is um the distinction between gender and sex like there's i think there's a real distinction gender gender is in the mind gender is uh gender is a real you can say you're whatever you want if gender is in the mind yeah then why do people need to chop off their breasts if it's just a mind if they want to it's it's because they feel like they want to i think it's that it's not i thought it's just a brain thing why does it have to involve a body thing

Well, maybe their brain says they want to.

Yeah, I think so. You can just say you are, and then I would say you are. It's a gender identity.

Well, no, I would say there is. Yeah. Because when you're identifying as a woman, there's processes you take towards that. I mean, it's very easy to differentiate.

Yeah, I mean, you can pretty easily tell that someone's... I don't know if it's ever been documented, but someone that's going out to women's sports to specifically compete and just say, oh, yeah, I'm trans. I'm sure that would be shut down.

Yeah, but that's a trans woman. Right? Or a trans man. I don't really know where your angle is right now.

Isn't that going against free speech? Because you can present yourself however you want.

Yeah, I think that's fine. Like, if they identify as a woman, I mean, I don't think it's that deep. I mean, well... What's your angle against it?

I don't think trans people are perverts. And I would say if someone is a pervert, listen, if a man is a real true predator, will not turn trans and say, oh, I'm a woman now to go into a women's bathroom.

Dude, I don't know. That one's hard. I know. Dude, that's your line. And I think that's hard to say, man. I don't know.

Oh, I don't know.

Yeah.

I really don't know. I think that's a... It's a gender. I think it's a gender more than a sex. I think sex is female, and then a woman is, like, gender. Yeah. That's what I would say.

I actually think it depends because I think there is a real concern about permanent changes. And I think... But I think it's often a bit of a huge scare because I think there's a lot of procedures that go into being transgender that aren't permanent. And I think those are totally fine.

I think if an 11-year-old says, hey, an 11-year-old boy says, hey, I think I'm a girl, and they want to dress up like a girl to go to school, I don't think that's not an irreversible thing. I think that's totally fine.

Chop off their arms? No, I think that's pretty bad.

First of all, that's a far leap. That's a procedure other than just chopping off your breasts. I do think going through the actual surgery, that's really far. That doesn't have to... occur early stage. Like, if someone's transgender, there's so much more than physically, like, chopping off your body parts. A lot of it is just self-expression.

So if an 11-year-old says, I'm going to chop off my body parts, yeah, I would say they can't really do that. Let's wait a little later.

Parents should be parents.

No, I think that's a permanent change. I guess it's not necessarily permanent.

Now, is it permanent?

Here's my angle. If it's permanent, I think it should be waited until later on. If it's not permanent, then it's whatever.

I have no idea. I really don't know.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I would say a little bit. At least I felt like it was at the very least rude.

I think one thing you said, I'm taking really long, but one thing that you said that I feel like could have been seen as rude was when you mentioned bathrooms and you just essentially called all trans people perverts.

Okay, but if you identify as a woman.

Now we're back to disagreements on what is being a woman.

You started this complimenting my dress, and I think you don't like it. I'm starting to feel a little bit hurt right now.

Yeah, I think that's fine. But what I was going to get back to, I just think that it's just like how I was saying, you're part of the problem, I think, with the hatred on trans people. It's really... It's really not that deep. Like if someone wants to dress up however they want, that's totally fine.

I know you're not.

I would say you are.

It's just kind of rude. It's really just like common courtesy. If someone says, can you identify as a woman and you don't, is it that much effort? It is never common courtesy to lie.

All right. Hello, everybody. My name is Gabe. First of all, super excited to be here. I cannot believe you came here to UF. What I came here, my talking point, I wanted to know what your views are on, what is it, queer people, just like gay people, transgender people. Because I know there's a lot of hatred coming from...

I really don't see that point. But I think we're getting to the point where we straight up disagree. And I don't know how to get there.

Two perspectives, yeah. Two opinions, two perspectives.

I don't think that's true, man. I think, like I said, it's in the mind. It really is in your head.

Well, I think they're different.

Prove it.

I just don't think so. I disagree.

Hey, this is Gabe on an ET phone home. And my boldest state is, Die Hard 2 isn't a bad movie. It's just sandwiched between two greats. Alright, I'll hang up and listen.

Cuervo. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

I think the Mavs choked on that trade. I don't think it was a good trade. I don't understand the whole purpose of the trade. I don't want to hate on AD, but... You just gave up a franchise player and gave it to the Lakers. I'm assuming for LeBron.

I am an editor.

Commissioner, with all due respect, your time is up.

Just like you did in prior years. Just like you did in prior years. Just like Commissioner King was there also.

He always does the same thing and this is what I was telling you gentlemen not to get into. He is the one that has a kangaroo court where all the employees, a lot of employees in the city of Miami are scared of him. If you go talk to the employees, not in his presence of course, of what went on there in Bayfront Trust, you would find that everybody was terrified of this gentleman. Okay, terrified.

He doesn't speak about the facts. What he wants to do with you is he wants to muddy the waters today. He wants to detract. He wants to control the narrative. And the narrative is the wrongdoing that was happening in Bayfront Trust and what I promised as a commissioner to bring forward. I promised transparency and accountability when I became chairman. And that's exactly what I'm doing.

He doesn't like the fact, you know, that this is going on. Okay? And... I would advise him, okay, I would advise him, we have enough lawsuits already, okay, in the city of Miami, basically 95% of them having to do with him, to get into more, okay. We are simply going to report here what has happened, okay, and let the chips fall where they might.

Well, first of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak about this issue, which is a very serious issue and an important issue for a lot of the residents of the city of Miami, if not all. And yes, Billy, what transpired was that since I became chairman, We started to notice irregularities that have been going on in the past.

And we brought this to the forefront with a special meaning, because this is the equivalent. He has taken funds. When Joe Carollo was chairman of the Bayfront Trust, apparently funds were diverted from Bayfront Trust entity to other entities that had nothing to do with Bayfront Trust. Hence, for example, the food operation that he was assembling in Bayfront Trust, which had nothing to do

Das ist eine Missverwaltung von Finanzen. Das ist eine Verwaltung in meinem Buch, weil ich nicht denke, dass ich z.B. was put in charge of Bayfront Trust as chairman to divert funds to help my political career or to divert funds from Bayfront Park to my district. That's what he did and that's what we reported. It's my duty.

obligation to report this and that's simply what we did he had his answer to this if you notice you know his answer is he doesn't defend himself his answer is throwing like you said muddying the water controlling the narrative okay and making it detracting from what really is going on by now

threaten me with the code enforcement by calling, by instructing Art Noriega, our city manager, to come after me and my properties and to investigate my properties. When I can tell you right now, Billy, I have zero violations, have had zero violations, with the exception of some trash violations. One of my tenants took out furniture that they moved and they took it out one day earlier.

It's a $150 fine. I told them not to do it again and I paid it out of my pocket. But that's it. I have zero violations since I've owned that property. And the same thing for my house. The most I have on my house is a graffiti that I called for to be removed. It was a service call. Und das ist das, was ich habe.

Das ist die Weaponisierung des Stadtverbandes. Er weaponisiert das Stadtverband, wie er es mit Bill Fuller machte, wie er es mit Martin Bonilla machte. Und das ist 2.0 jetzt mit mir und meiner Frau. Und meine Frau, die auch ein Bürger der Stadt Miami ist. Und jetzt will er seine Pferde besitzen. Und hör mal, nicht alle Leute in der Stadt Miami oder im Gefängnis sind schlechte Leute. Okay.

But you must understand that this gentleman is weaponizing city government. It's already cost us in the millions of dollars. He's doing it again. He's got a track record. He's got an ammo. And this is precisely what he does to his political opponents. You know, the only thing is that he thinks now that he can do it to me and that he can get away with it. The problem is he's got a track record.

We all know what he's done before. Like I said, this is costing the taxpayers in excess of 10 million dollars. We're still at it. We still have lawsuits on top of us that we're now negotiating, trying to settle. There's legal costs, ramifications. And here he goes again one more time. And I don't know why our city manager allows himself to be put into this position.

And I think he's in the middle of all this. Aber ich denke, dass der Bürgermeister weiß, dass Joe Garroyo seinen Chief of Staff, William Ortiz, als seine Proxy verwendet hat, um Art zu bestrafen, um meine Gebäude zu untersuchen. Und wiederum, meine Gebäude haben kein Problem. Keine meiner Gebäude. Jetzt, seine Gebäude, Joe Garroyos Gebäude, haben Probleme in der Vergangenheit. Das war öffentlich.

Und schau dir das an, ich habe gefragt, denn er streikt im jubiläum auf weil ich jetzt auch mein property which i have with me okay and i guess your problems but when you go to search for his his of past violations are all covered up the rejected and if you go on the miami-dade-county website Du kannst nicht, du nimmst seinen Namen, es ist wie ein Polizist, er ist komplett ausgerastet.

Du gehst zu meinem Zeug und du kannst meine Gebäude sehen und du kannst die Informationen lesen. Du tust es ihm, wir haben nur eine redaktionäre Kopie, dass viele Sachen ausgelöscht wurden. Wer weiß, ob er noch keine Verletzungen hat. Ich verstehe, er hat einen Banyan-Tree gedreht. Er wurde für Carports besucht, illegale Carports. Er wurde besucht.

Es ist wie acht oder neun oder zehn verschiedene Dinge. Und die letzte, die letzte war, About one commission meeting ago or two commission meetings ago, I did not know that there was an ordinance being passed for fences from four feet to six feet. And guess what?

I've learned that this was supposed to happen to accommodate him because I understand that he might have a problem with a fence and his pool. And because they tell me it's a weird configuration. I want to know because I've never been to his house nor planned to. Okay, but this is the thing that's going on here. That that, you know, this is serious business.

He's making it out to be like it's, you know, some kind of joke.

I would encourage our citizens, if you have any information on the Bayfront Trust and what happened there, please come forward, come to my office and tell me about it, because we're trying to get to the bottom of things. And I'm sure that we continue now. We've asked for a forensic audit. It was supposed to be done a year and a half ago, a year ago.

The late Commissioner, former Commissioner Malora Reyes asked for it. We learned that it has never been done, and now we're doing one of our own We've picked an auditing company that has no ties with anybody. And all of a sudden we get the city, the financial department is telling us that they have an auditor already. And we said, no, no, thank you. We're picking our own auditor.

And you're late to the game because this should have happened a year ago. That's the next step that we are taking. But this gentleman weaponizes city government. This is what he's done in the past. He's doing it again. Now he's doing it with a fellow commissioner. And it's just sad. What's going on and what you have to hear. But I would hope that the city manager has gone through this before.

This is not his first rodeo. He knows this is not correct. He knows this is not correct. And all we've asked for is, look, if he wants to do this witch hunt, he can't do it and weaponize city government. I want to pass a resolution so this can never happen again between commissioners. And my resolution says that if you've got a complaint against another fellow commissioner, Ja, genau.

Gut oder schlecht, ich denke, das war eine gute Sache, weil es den Konflikt der Interessen verhindert. Nun, das ist das gleiche Ding. Das ist das gleiche Ding, du weißt, es nimmt den Konflikt der Interessen aus, du weißt, aber er ist dagegen. Weißt du, warum er dagegen ist? Weil er hofft, die Stadt-Gewerkschaft gegen mich, einen gemeinsamen Kommissionär, weil er einen politischen...

Ich habe ihn gefragt, mit mir zu grinden. Verstehe, dass er das durch seinen Chef, den Stadtmanager, gemacht hat, um gegen mich zu gehen, wenn ich keine Probleme habe in meinen Gebäuden. Und er hat es gemacht, am gleichen Tag, als ich das Meeting machen werde. Er stellt dieses Memo aus, um 12.45 Uhr, um 15 Minuten vor dem Start meines Meetings.

Und ich bekomme keinen Text von ArtNoriega bis zum nächsten Tag.

But you're not going to be here. You said you're not going to be here.

No, no, no. I need your vote on this, because I've been targeted by the City of Miami Code Enforcement Department to the City Manager, because of doing my job on Bayfront Trust, and Commissioner Garojo is harassing me. He wants my house to be investigated when I have done... No, ma'am. No, ma'am. I know what's going on here. So I'll tell you what. I'm leaving.

If I don't do this, I'm leaving right now. This is ridiculous. I did not say that we would not take it up.

I need your vote.

Okay, then let's take care of this.

The mayor presented something today at the last minute and you took it. I always end up in the same thing. Mine is time sensitive. You know why? Because the code enforcement is coming after me for doing my job. That's what's going on here.

I am being harassed. I want to save the city of Miami. This is, this is, if you allow me, please.

Look, here's what's going on. Okay. Number one, she has a tough job to do. And I realize this, right? Because she's in the middle of Carollo and myself. Okay. But she was willing to take on the mayor's last minute request. And you know what the mayor's last minute request was about? Paddleball. Okay. That's what that request was about. That's time sensitive, Commissioner.

Yeah, apparently that's more important than weaponizing city government, I guess. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. You know why? Because I'm not going to speak ill of my fellow commissioners, except for Joe Carollo. Okay, because I don't have beef with the chairwoman. I don't have a problem with Commissioner Pardo.

Okay, my problem is with Joe Carollo and what he is attempting to do, which is to get his way always. in the city hall. And, you know, earlier in the week, you know, there was a building collapse, right, Billy? There was a partial building collapse in my area. In Alapata, yeah. In Alapata. I asked... Art Noriega, that I wanted answers. I wanted answers.

The day after it happened, I wanted answers. And he told me that he would get to it. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Because I was very livid of what had happened in my area. Because this was a building that for five or six years was known to be unsafe. Okay, and was left like that until finally almost came down on somebody.

Luckily, nobody was injured, but I don't want that to happen again in my area or any parts of the city of Miami. I asked that to be put on as an emergency pocket item, and they said no to me. I got the emails to prove it. If that isn't an emergency for a pocket item, I do not know what it is, Billy. I do not know what it is. And what it is, is that people are scared of Joe Carollo.

Okay, they are scared of Joe Carollo and therefore they do this because Joe Carollo, what Joe Carollo wants is for somehow, he's hoping that Rosado wins this campaign now on Tuesday and then he has the majority and then he wants the code enforcement to investigate my properties. Okay, which have no merit whatsoever, okay, to be investigated.

Maybe his does, I would dare say, okay, but this is what he's doing. So what he did was, he did a maneuver, okay, they did a maneuver, so I cannot pass the resolution that I wanted to pass. And the resolution was quite simply, you got a problem, send it to the county and let the county deal with it. Ob es meine Rechte ist, deine Rechte, wer auch immer, wir sind beide ausgewählte Offiziere.

Aber das ist lustig, wenn man von Joe Carollo kommt, der bekannt ist, dass er mehrere Verletzungen auf seiner Rechte hat. Das ist lustig, dass er das tut und sein M.O., wie Sie wissen, immer nach seinen politischen Feinden geht, mit allem, was er hat. Das Problem für ihn ist, dass ich auch ein Stadtminister bin, wie er selbst.

Und ich habe das gleiche Recht, jemandem die Fragen zu stellen, auf dieser Diase. Ich habe gehört, dass es gesprochen wird, dass er einen Deal mit Rosado gemacht hat. Und wenn Rosado kommt, werden sie ihn zurück auf die Bayfront-Trust legen. Ich wundere, was er Angst vor hat, dass wir...

Because of the continuity of of the last year's year is precisely, and this is precisely why we got in trouble in the sense that the insurance company dropped us. Dropped one commissioner, and because that commissioner was dropped, okay, everybody else was dropped. So right now we're operating, we don't have insurance.

And anything, you know, the city's paying for it, the taxpayers are paying for it. I feel bad about that. One thing is having insurance, and another thing is the taxpayer footing the bill. That's what I'm concerned about, as I'm sure the other commissions are concerned about.

The decision was made by the administration, as I was told, that because that one, in other words, they would cover four other commissioners, except that one commissioner. But the decision was made, I was told, or this is what I'm aware of, that because of that, the administration said, no, if you don't cover that, everybody, you're not going to cover anybody.

So in other words, I don't, for example, I don't have insurance because of another commissioner's action. Well, we're self-insuring, you know, you don't have coverage, but self-insurance.

If we got out into the marketplace, to see what insurance companies are out there that can give us quotes.

I cannot believe that with all the insurance companies that we have, not only in the U.S., but outside of the U.S., We can't find any that will give us quotes.