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Gabriel Zucman

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Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

Then for the minimum to be effective, it has to be expressed not as a fraction of income because the whole problem is that those billionaires- Because they have no income.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

They manage to report no income like Jeff Bezos.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

From the perspective of the tax law, they managed to pretend that they don't have income.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

As CEO of Amazon, Jeff Bezos didn't pay himself a wage.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

As controlling shareholder of Amazon, he instructed the company not to distribute dividends.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

He didn't sell shares, and so he didn't realize capital gains, and so his taxable income was truly zero.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

Exactly.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

So his true economic income is very large.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

He's in the billions.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

His wealth is gigantic, but he paid no income tax.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

And that's legal, and that's the way the system works, but of course, it's not a good way.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

It's not a good system.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

So, we need to create a minimum.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

For the minimum to be effective, it has to be expressed not as a fraction of taxable income, but as a fraction of wealth.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

That's the basic idea.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

So minimum expresses a fraction of wealth.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

Then if you choose a rate of 2% on wealth, not a higher rate, it's the rate that would ensure that the billionaires would pay as much tax, all tax included, relative to their income than the rest of the population.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

That's how the rate was computed.

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

So basically it all starts from a body of work

Garys Economics
The economist billionaires fear: this is how we get a wealth tax. Meeting Gabriel Zucman

international research effort that was done over the last five, six years that has established that the billionaires, the super rich, have much lower effective tax rates, all tax included, than the rest of the population.